Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong?
for me it's more to do with being asked to join with them in the preaching and not being able to do so anymore as I cannot justify the message.
whether they are right or wrong isn't why i left.
many who leave the witnesses go on to affirm other recognisable sets of beliefs.
some become christians of various sorts, others tend toward patriotism as a kind of rejection of the anti-patriotic stance of the watchtower, while yet more simply affirm in general the secular values of mainstream society.
do you believe jehovah's witnesses are wrong?
Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong?
for me it's more to do with being asked to join with them in the preaching and not being able to do so anymore as I cannot justify the message.
whether they are right or wrong isn't why i left.
i've just booked some cinema tickets for later today and also ordered a book i want to take on holiday.
from nowhere that scripture they were always quoting at us came to me, something about don't be planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.
you always had to be planning spiritual, theocratic stuff, entertainment and pleasure were a bit dodgy, better not tell anyone.
we were just reminiscing about the years I never took a day off from work other than Christmas as I was raised with the viewpoint vacations were wrong, materialism.
i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.
now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.
more than i like. I work at killing the emotion.
will i say " orlando, your hair is too long, and needs to be cut short" and never will i say " orlando, invites to birthday parties can't be accepted".
and i will buy my son books he wants to read, books that bring him happiness, and that he understands.
and by so doing, i hope he will acquire happy memories of his childhood, so that the sensitive and delicate, in him will be allowed to grow.
I had two discussions this week, one with my brother and the other with one of my children.
The discussion with my child revolved around being a member of another church and being a vicar. I think there are some benefits to being part of a community and partaking. Although I'm not.
Being raised as a JW now has very limited benefits. My parents were strict witnesses and we were good witness children. I think we would have survived the GT.
This means we lost out. As I said to my brother I never had a present. I never done anything with my father that was enjoyable I have no good memories with my parents
I knew what i wanted to do for living at 9 and never did it. I have no real pension and have worked harder than i should have.
My children are well educated and we have a good relationship.
my witness self :-very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.. my non-witness self:- and in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends..
I was raised as a JW and i don't feel that i've changed much since I left. Some of the changes are probably more to do with getting older. I have less anxiety than I did.
I've seen a few plays that I wouldn't have seen when I was a witness and done a few things that I wouldn't have done. Took a while to be able to buy my kids toys near to Christmas without having to check who was in the shop and buying an Easter egg meant wearing a disguise. Now i'm able to go to the LGBT theatre and smoke cigars with no problem. Laying on the floor drunk I was able to do when I was a Witness.
i'm probably going to say some things here that will disappoint many.
there are some that may look back over the years and say "man i really blew it" i'm not writing the following to scold for failures, but rather to help those who are young enough to put into practice what god wills for their life, and also to those of us who are in our middle years that still have time to change some things, in order to please god and find a peace that only being in his will can bring.
first let me say that god didn't create man for you.
God made a woman to sit in the audience
This is like my wife. Whenever i do a job around the house or garden she gets a chair and sits and watches. She could help but she feels she is by saying how well I'm doing or not doing.
over the years here on this site i have found over half of the folks can hold their own with any minister.. why when we leave the borg we become proficient on any subject on the bible.. why did we go down that road?
my intention was to get close to jehovah (searching the bible), but i. guess i found lucifer.
i'am ask all the time, how did you go from a true believer to calling the bible a book.
"the only way to understand the press is to remember that they pander to their readers prejudices"the guardian?
london-centric middle-class liberal-left chattering-class.daily circulation of the guardian around 170,000 copies, compared to say the daily mail's daily circulation of around 1,500,000.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgscoauww2m.
I'm not a regular newspaper reader but the guardian is one that I buy
let me ask you only one question.
first i need to clarify a few things.
in the new world translation, john 1:1 reads: “in [the] beginning the word was, and the word was with god, and the word was a god.” then in isaiah 9:6 (nwt) we read: “for there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder.
The Trinity bored me and even after leaving the witnesses I agreed with them on it. One of my children brought the subject up once, due to a friend who was a baptist, I remember thinking how i disagreed with it.
Then one day an elder who was calling on me brought the subject up and he changed my mind. lol. he left shaking his stick at me.
He didn't mean to change my mind but I was more surprised than him I think
the biggest regret i have is of 'shunning' persons who were disfellowshipped and for 'marking' ones deemed as bad association.. there's no way i can approach these people to ask them for forgiveness as i've emigrated to another country however, by this post i'd like it to be known..
I regret things I should have done, like in education but I have no regrets about how I was when I was a JW.