Your impression is correct, jdubs take shunning very seriously as a whole. But there are some that choose to take it lightly, I.e. those who continue to communicate with df'd family members and allow grown df'd children to live with them. It sounds like there are a few out there who don't agree with the severity of the punishment. Especially the woman with leukemia. If accepting blood products is a matter of conscience, why isn't whole blood also? To me that's like saying, you can have a mixed drink but not straight liquer or beer. Alcohol is alcohol. Blood is blood. And health issues are none of anyone's goddamn business anyway. If god values life so much, why would a jw want to die unnecessarily? I never understood that, even before my Awakening.
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What happened to shunning ?
by cookiemaster inokay, so...i haven't been to the kingdumb hall since last spring but i like to believe i'm up to date with the jw ways.
as most of you have heard many times already, my mother was disfellowshipped (actually they said he disassociated), for accepting blood transfusions in a life or death situation.
right after coming from the hospital the elder said she da'd.
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I miss my family so much. I thought I was over it but I have breakdowns every few months thinking about my family
by macys inas most of you know i have been shunned by my family for 2 years because of a photo posted on facebook of me kissing another girl at a party.
the matter was not dealt with fairly but it is over now and i am 100% certain that jdub org is a cult.
but i miss my family so much.
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Caleb and Sofia used to brainwash children
by shattered_origins inokay, i need to vent.
as a newly awoken individual, i have yet to "come out" to my hard core jdub parents.
my plan was to lay low and use my unbelieving husband and baby as an excuse for my "inactivity", it has worked for the last few months.
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Okay, I need to vent. As a newly Awoken individual, I have yet to "come out" to my hard core jdub parents. My plan was to lay low and use my unbelieving husband and baby as an excuse for my "inactivity", it has worked for the last few months. Well today I came home from work and my mom was playing Caleb and sofia videos for my 4 month old son. Now, I was disfellowshipped for 5ish years and didn't make any effort to familiarize myself with the new jw site once reinstated. But I want to know what my son is being exposed to, so I check out the kids section and OH MY GOD they are using cartoon characters to brainwash children!!! I watched ONE caleb and sofia VIDEO and am APALLED at the manipulation. My mom works secularly and takes care of my grandparents, so she doesn't babysit often. I think I'll let it go for now since my son is still an infant. But if she keeps it up I'll tell her my husband doesn't want our child exposed (which is true and he said I can use him as an excuse haha). But then she may do it anyway, claiming we need to "obey god rather than men." Argh. Thoughts? -
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I Hate the Sound of the Word Jehovah
by cofty inlistening to clips of the latest manipulative video from the watchtower i realised how much i detest that word - jehovah.. sometimes i have thought it would be interesting to observe a meeting or part of a convention.
every time i heard that word i would be unable to stay in my seat.. i have a visceral reaction every time i hear it.
it stands for so much that i have contempt for.
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I could sue the WTBTS
by shattered_origins inever since my sister gave me an " awakening," i have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion i was born into.
i am especially outraged at the article i read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php).
i myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/ministerial servant in a neighboring congregation.
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No, there was no prison time. As traumatic as the experience was, the crimes he was found guilty of, did not warrant jail time if he pled out. You are right about Conti, the elders knew about her abuser's history, and it was a much different scenario. The bastard who hurt me, his wife used to babysit an infant girl and I remember him telling me he changed her diaper and described to me her "cute little peach." Even if he didn't touch that baby who the FUCK says that about a baby's genitals? There was also another girl in the church that he showered with gifts and letters before moving on to me. He also made advances towards my older sister. I'm positive I wasn't the only one, but I don't have any hard evidence other than circumstantial gut feelings. I don't know what happened to him after he was reinstated, if he befriended another girl, because they live in another county. After my awakening and research, my emotional reaction was I should sue, but now that I've cooled off and thought rationally, I don't think I have a case and I don't want to sue bad enough to hire legal help to find out if I do.
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Introduction
by shattered_origins ini joined the forum yesterday and made 2 angry posts which received encouraging replies.
i spent a good chunk of time today browsing various posts, and i can't get enough!
i'm doing things backwards now and taking a moment to introduce myself.
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I joined the forum yesterday and made 2 angry posts which received encouraging replies. I spent a good chunk of time today browsing various posts, and I can't get enough! I'm doing things backwards now and taking a moment to introduce myself. I'm an American female in my late 20s, born into JW, even pioneered for a while because it is expected of young people. I was disfellowshipped for a few years, and recently got reinstated because I missed my family. Since then, I have begun to fade out for personal reasons, but felt guilty for doing so. A few weeks ago, my sister (also a user of this forum) came to visit me and gave me a powerful "unwitnessing." Now I don't feel so guilty for missing so many meeting, and my fading intensifies. -
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I could sue the WTBTS
by shattered_origins inever since my sister gave me an " awakening," i have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion i was born into.
i am especially outraged at the article i read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php).
i myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/ministerial servant in a neighboring congregation.
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@capytan, @Simon, @Finklestein
He told the Elders he took a guilty plea to "save me" from the agony of a trial. How kind of him. If he wanted to save me he should've killed himself.
I'm not actually going to pursue legal action. My parents are still hardcore jdubs and don't know I'm fading out and don't plan on raising my son in their religion. For now they think I'm busy with the baby and can't get to meetings. If I were to sue the WTS they'd probably fall over dead from shock over my blasphemous behavior.
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I could sue the WTBTS
by shattered_origins inever since my sister gave me an " awakening," i have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion i was born into.
i am especially outraged at the article i read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php).
i myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/ministerial servant in a neighboring congregation.
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Ever since my sister gave me an " awakening," I have been somewhat obsessed with the failings of the religion I was born into. I am especially outraged at the article I read about how the elders are supposed to deal with accusations of sexual abuse (jwfacts.com/watchtower/paedophelia.php)
I myself suffered sexual and emotional abuse from a family "friend"/Ministerial Servant in a neighboring congregation. When I finally told my mom what he was doing, she did the smart thing and took me to the local police station. Long story short, a case was made (I had physical evidence-gifts, letters, etc) and a preliminary hearing was held pending a trial. Well the bastard took a guilty plea--that's right, he admitted he was guilty to the judge. However the elders in his cong refused to issue discipline because he told them he was innocent. Years later he finally confessed, got disfellowshipped, and was reinstated less than a year later. All these years I thought those elders were lazy and incompetant. Little did I know, they handled my case exactly how their secret elders handbook tells them to! I am nothing short of outraged!!! My search also led me to the story of Candace Conti, and I realized, shit, I could sue too! At least for pain and suffering. I received professional help for a short time but my parents were told by the Elders that wordly therapy was bad. I loved my psychiatrist. She helped me through my PTSD, depression, and self mutilation. When I was suddenly pulled from therapy by my parents, I became even more depressed and actually attempted suicide. So yeah, Watchtower, you kinda owe me one!!!