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  Spain Branch is selling Assambley Hall in Barcelona

  by JHK in

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  spain branch is selling the assambley hall in barcelona city.

  the governing body bank wants money.

  they have a heavenly hope, but at the same time, love earthly money.. a good photos: .

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  erbie

  Well, Mammon is a very hungry and demanding god which must be attended to!
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  My trouble

  by bushido8000 in

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  i have been facing a small dilemma for some years now.

  i have been in the truth since i was 5 years old.

  after experiencing some troubles with man-made rules (non-scriptural, told me that i absolutely could not join my small school's football team) in the kingdom hall when i was about 16, i stopped going to take a step back and look at what was going on.

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  Dear bushido,

  all I can say to you is what is in my heart and what I do know from personal experience which contains no hidden agenda.

  I think you may find it helpful to distance yourself slightly, not literally but intellectually. This would allow you a different perspective on things and would, perhaps, help you to clarify things in your own mind.

  I am a little concerned that they discouraged you from playing for your school team. What was their reasoning? Thats probably a good place to start.

  Do YOU belive they were right to discourage you?

  If you ask yourself questions you will come up with the answers. Ultimately, others opinions are of little value as I have discovered myself. Eventually you will have to make an informed decision based on what you believe and what you don't agree with or are in conflict with.

  In short, it is very difficult to view objectively that which we are so close to. So perhaps you need to view the situation, with you in it, from a distance.

  More easily said than done but I wish you every success.
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  "Mentally Diseased" are confirmed as offensive words of hate crime. Help needed, please.

  by Amelia Ashton in

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  my youngest is studying law.

  browsing through one of her books i came across a chapter freedom of association.

  it covers the well known categories, colour, race, religion, sexuality etc.

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  erbie

  Yes, it makes you marvel really. When you read the 'Proclaimers' book which gives an account of persecution against the Watchtower, is it any wonder when you consider the language they were using against both the authorities and other religions.

  I think they are learning that it is best not to throw stones. Especially when people can throw them back!

  We were taught that they were victimised. But were they really? I'm not so sure now. Not that I condone violence against the WT or anyone else but I do feel that they have done their fair share of trouble making.

  Perhaps they will now grow up. We live in hope.
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  Another question for those who attended the "Mentally Diseased" Watchtower

  by cantleave in

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  nugget and i are helping amelia prepare for her statement to the police tomorrow.

  one of the possible objections is that the term "mentally diseased" is metaphorical.. when people answered on this paragraph did they say "people who leave are metally diseased" or did they say "they are like mentally diseased" people?.

  if they said the former it would indicate that they did not take it metaphorically..

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  erbie

  Thanks fokyc.

  I did have to do a bit of fast tracking when I realised my blunder!

  Perhaps I sometimes run when I should walk.
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  "Mentally Diseased" are confirmed as offensive words of hate crime. Help needed, please.

  by Amelia Ashton in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my youngest is studying law.

  browsing through one of her books i came across a chapter freedom of association.

  it covers the well known categories, colour, race, religion, sexuality etc.

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  erbie

  Indeed, it is shocking language and a poor example to set.

  I think that the history of the Watchtower confirms that this has always been the kind of verbal abuse and namecalling that they resort to. They have got away with it thus far but I think that, ultimately, they will be forced to step into the 21st century and comply with human rights issues. I suppose that in some ways this is happening already.

  Irrespective of our own personal views or agenda, they will not be allowed to be the bully boy in the playground for much longer.

  If I may, the fact that we are all anti Watchtower somewhat places us all on the same side, right?
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  Did YOU Change In Your Personality After You Left The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  we knock a lot of things about the witnesses.

  i wonder if we're really all that much different in our personalities as exjws.. .

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  I have come to view people as individuals and I try to see the good in them rather that label them as worldlings. I suppose I have come to realise that, unlike the Watchtower, I really do like getting to know people and appreciate that everyone is unique.

  I didn't go on a drinking binge or anything like that but have come to fully appreciate the freedom to choose and take responsibility for my own actions and choices not having an organization to blame when things go awry.

  It's very empowering to read the comments of people who have the wherewithal to break away from the control of the hateful Watchtower.

  Viva La Vida!
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  Celebrate Good Times: Come On!

  by headisspinning in

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  today marks our two years free.

  my now husband was df'd on september 13, 2009 and i was officially canned on september 15, 2009!.

  it has been a long road and if any of you remember, we initially came on this board looking for help to get reinstated.that is a huge laugh now, hey!

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  Keep on enjoying the real life.

  Good Times!
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  Another question for those who attended the "Mentally Diseased" Watchtower

  by cantleave in

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  nugget and i are helping amelia prepare for her statement to the police tomorrow.

  one of the possible objections is that the term "mentally diseased" is metaphorical.. when people answered on this paragraph did they say "people who leave are metally diseased" or did they say "they are like mentally diseased" people?.

  if they said the former it would indicate that they did not take it metaphorically..

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  erbie

  Actually, upon reflection, it is apparent that you were displaying irony and do not believe that nonsense.

  My sincere apologies. I think I need a cup of tea!
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  What's behind the JW "stare"

  by InterestedOne in

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  in my interactions with jw males guarding the kh entrance or with the various males my study conductor would bring to our study (one i later found out was considered a "heavy," meaning he was supposedly really good at answering tough questions), i notice they stare intensely at me and i start fumbling my words.

  in one case, i went to a different kh where no one knew me and got the same stare at the door.

  is this stare deliberate, and if so, what is behind it?

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  Well, I was at a convention in Wales a few years ago as an attendant and some of the brothers there described themselves as 'watchers'. They had a small gold star stuck on their lapel. You know, like the little gold stars you get at pre-school when you do a nice drawing of a tree that looks like a lolly.

  Watchers of the Tower.
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  Another question for those who attended the "Mentally Diseased" Watchtower

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  nugget and i are helping amelia prepare for her statement to the police tomorrow.

  one of the possible objections is that the term "mentally diseased" is metaphorical.. when people answered on this paragraph did they say "people who leave are metally diseased" or did they say "they are like mentally diseased" people?.

  if they said the former it would indicate that they did not take it metaphorically..

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  erbie

  Dear fokyc,

  Is this really your view or are you being ironic?

  Without question, the fact that the Watchtower reduces itself to petty name calling is a clear and resounding symptom of their insecurity and lack of reasonable evidence to back up their unscriptual false teachings.

  Why would any active supporter of the Watchtowe false prophets (should be false profits) frequent this site and defend their lies?

  Really, let them do their own dirty work. Do you not know that in order to cover up a lie one must tell another, and another and so on?

  Charles Taze Russel founded the Watctower religion on a lie. Namely that he had knowledge of the coming of the Lord. Information which, in time, proved false.

  This is why they are extremely defensive and insecure of their spurious history and aggressively attack anyone who dares contradict them with abusive language. Yes, I'm sorry, It really is abusive language weather you like it or not.

  If you are very ingenious at being ironic then I apologise.

  Keep on the watch!