Posts by erbie

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Rumor of new light on the headquarters of the WT

by wolfman85 in

i read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.

has anyone heard anything about this??

the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.

erbie

It is strange that, with the constant flow of 'NEW LIGHT', things seem to get darker and more confused.

By now it should be like staring into the sun with a magnifying glass.

New light indeed...

What an idiotic concept!!!

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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!

by ekruks in

like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.

after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).

i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.

erbie

And by that I mean that (in their own view) it elevates people above them because they are insecure at their lack of knowledge and education.

Personally, I would in no way say that education is a clear indication of intelligence but the Governing Body really do have a problem with it due to a deep seated sense of inferiority.

In short, they would not wish for their followers to be more educated than they are.

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JWs say it's my fault I didn't go to university ?!

by ekruks in

like many on here, as a jw trying hard to follow the direction of the gb, i listened to the advice to pioneer and trust in jehovah to provide (mat6.33) instead of going to university.

after struggling for ages in low-paid physically-demanding jobs, i decided to become a student (thanks for the encouragement on here guys!).

i tell a jw i wish i had been to university when i was a teenager, and put all that pioneer time into studying hard for a good grade, get a good job, and if i had wound up tired as i am now, at least i would have been paying into a mortgage on a home and pension.

erbie

They hate education because it elevates others above them because they are so ignorant.

Apart from that, they are too arrogant to be taught as they think they know it all.

I value education extremely highly for when I was a dub on the ministry I, like all others, felt that I knew it all and had the answers to everything and it made me so proud.

However, when I quit the cult and attended university I realised that I really knew very little of any importance.

We had one lecturer who is a leading authority on religious iconography and symbology. When I questioned her about the cross and the torture stake argument she thought I had been extremely misinformed.

The WT leaders really are a bunch of morons.

Please don't take anything they say seriously.

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Why did you pick the name you have now

by label licker in

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just wondering if your name describes what you saw, how you were treated when you were "in" or now "out", maybe your personality, ect.... i'm label licker and the why i picked this name was because of all the licking up one side of elders and down the other to either be an elder or ministerial servant.

one time i was standing right in front of this brother who wasn't made an ms yet and he totally ignored me and talked right over my head speaking really loud trying to catch the co's attention.. got sick of watching the poor elderly sitting all alone or standing against the wall like a wall flower with noone to talk to and yet all these label lickers would take turns picking up the elders elderly parents and take them shopping and do their groceries at least four times a week while out in service, yet, there was noone there to take a meal to a sister who just got out of the hospital with a heart attack.

when i had shown up at her apartment with a meal she asked if i could wash her private and change her bandages.

erbie

My real name.

I am erbie and apart from me there are no other erbies.

Probably just as well really...

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Why should this annoy me?

by punkofnice in

long story short.

i left the wbt$ and was forcibly da'd for attending a church.. wifey says she 'chooses' not to talk to me about 'spiritual'(tm) matters.

i told wifey that she didn't 'choose' but was told not to talk to me about such matters by some men in brooklyn.

erbie

Punk

You and I are in a similar neck of the woods so I appreciate what it is like.

I stopped attending the cult meetings and my wife carried on for a while.

Then she decided to have an affair.

Of course, her parents and the rest of the cult were insistent that it was my fault because I had stopped attending-she was not reproved.

Now she has left and is very angry at the cult for brainwashing her and angry at me because we got married so young.

However, she refuses to admit that her parents are responsible for raising her into a cult and filling her head with wild delusions.

I never pressured her into leaving but they did pressure her into attending and ultimately, that is what made her 'break out'.

Its so sad and I know I'm not a unique case because the fact of the matter is that the Watchtower cult breaks up families.

Whatever else happens, never doubt that you did the right thing by leaving the cult!

I gave my children freedom from the cult and that is probably the most important gift I could ever have given them.

At least, that is what they now tell me

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The GB are god's mouthpiece. Rebuttal to elders?

by punkofnice in

i've read how many have been asked the question if they belive thae gb/f&d$ are jehovah's(tm) channel for communication.

this question to finally find out if they should be df or not (terms and conditions apply and are subject to favouritism or who your family are).. we all know too well that the gb arrogantly do claim to be god's channel in their pope like status.. however, when they are made to look like arses they suddenly become 'just imperfect men doing their best...where else will you go?'(r).

so when the elders come to hound individuals and ask the ultimate question of loyalty to the holy paedo ring known as the gb..... what answers have you heard given that was totally brilliant?.

erbie

At the outset you mention their 'trump card' answer; "where else will you go".

This is so misleading and a good example of answering a question with a question which, of course, is no help at all.

It is rather like me telling my neighbours that aliens landed outside the post office last night.

To which they excaim, "don't talk nonsense".

"Alright then", I say, "where do you think they landed".

They work on the false premiss that God must have a visible, worldwide oranization. And if its not them then who?

Never let them fob you off with this stupid, child-like response.

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New "Jehovah's Friend" video - Lesson 3: Pray Anytime

by cedars in

here it is folks.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/pray-anytime/.

sophia takes center stage on this one.. .

cedars.

erbie

Thank you for posting. It helps me see to what level they will stoop.

But please, don't ever subject me to that again.

It is truly cringe worthy

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Should Jehovah's Witnesses be added to the Wikipedia article on Doomsday Cults?

by jwfacts in

there is discussion of doomsday cults at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/doomsday_cult, and much of it aligns closely with watchtower predictions and behaviour, so i was wondering why jehovah's witnesses are not mentioned.

here are some quotes from the article:.

doomsday cult is an expression used to describe groups who believe in apocalypticism and millenarianism, and can refer both to groups that prophesy catastrophe and destruction, and to those that attempt to bring it about.

erbie

No.

They are doomsday C?$

Sorry, it just popped into my head

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BADGES COMING TO LOCAL KINGDOM HALLS, FINALLY RESPECT I DESERVE!

by AuntConnie in

badges are coming to distinguish real christian effort!

1. badges: i want my badge to be different from the other brothers and sisters badges coming!

the society has realized they can't live without us and now they are giving us a little something extra ,it's going to be a blast!

erbie

We should definitely have a 'like' button on here cos I haven't had such a laugh in ages.

No badgers!!!

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Fascinating 1914 exchange between CT Russell and a colporteur

by cedars in

i'm just doing some research for my book, and i uncovered a real gem from the watch tower of july 1st 1914 - published three months before the "gentile times" were due to end climaxing (as they thought back then) in armageddon.. a rather brave "colporteur" (pioneer) wrote in to the magazine asking whether the studies in the scriptures series of books advocating 1914 to be the end of the world should cease to be circulated after october.

not only does the question itself prove that the expectations of publishers back then were entirely contrary to what the society repeatedly implies them to be, but the answer given by russell shows the same arrogance and evasiveness that we see in modern literature from the society, showing how little has changed since those days.. here is the clipping.... .

notice how russell falls back on the same line of argumentation used by the society, namely "we have not attempted to say these views are infallible.".

erbie

Its interesting how he had the affront to draw a parallel between his own writings and the bible.

He had some ego!!!

So many people misled by one man's lies.