Thanks, Farkel, for letting us know he is alright.
NewLight2
on december 10th you posted that within a couple of days you would begin to post a three part series.
do you still intend to do so?
i've been looking forward to it.. i hope that you are feeling okay and that your spirits are high.
Thanks, Farkel, for letting us know he is alright.
NewLight2
here is our tree.
we had fun decorating it.
wish i had a better camera cause this lousy one doesnt do it justice.
Beautiful tree, Flower. But where are the presents?
NewLight2
here is our tree.
we had fun decorating it.
wish i had a better camera cause this lousy one doesnt do it justice.
Flower,
I can't see the image - all I get is an error page. Could you please just post the URL?
NewLight2
on december 10th you posted that within a couple of days you would begin to post a three part series.
do you still intend to do so?
i've been looking forward to it.. i hope that you are feeling okay and that your spirits are high.
I've been wondering the same thing, Jim. I hope you are OK. It would be helpful to your friends on the net if you would just post a short note daily to let us know you are OK.
NewLight2
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hello everyone,i know this might be the stupidest post i wrote but here it goes....... i have a friend( my only friend) that lives in louisana not too far away from me,she used to live here before than she moved to texas,now shes back here,and we have been best friends for awhile now,well she is worldy and i know my parents would never let me go spend the weekend with her,which is very unfair cause im like a hermit and im deprived of the outside world...lol im sorry i dont like to complain too people too much.well i dunno how im going to go see her,if i had a car it would be alot easier,where would i say i was going for a weekend?how would i be able to trick them?,lol,i know this is a retarded post,but if any wants to write back,plz,,,,help me,hehe
Shytears,
Some good ideas have already been given, so I'll repeat 2 that I fully agree with.
1. Talk to a school counselor or trusted teacher. But DON't mention the event at the football game with that guy. That is between you and the boy. (And DON'T ever tell your MOM about it either.) Explain to the counselor/teacher about the shunning you are experiencing from the JW's and all that it involves. If they ask why you are being shunned just answer that it could be for little things like not going to enough meetings, not enough time door knocking, or that you just want to have friends outside of the JW's. Work on building a trusting relationship with this councelor/teacher. If you don't agree with what this person tells you, just post on this board about it and get feedback from here. The more input you have from others the better.
2. Ask your friend's Mom to call your Mom. Have your friend's Mom invite you to spend the weekend with them THROUGH your Mom. That way the invitation will be from one adult to another adult. Your Mom may find it harder to refuse your friend's Mom. If that fails, than ask your Mom to invite both your friend and her Mom over for an afternoon.
Let the two Moms spend time together while you spend time with your friend. That time spent may be like building a bridge for further friendship meetings. Maybe the ice can be broken by starting out the first afternoon together, by all 4 of you playing table games together - dominos, Monoply, Sorry, etc. - for awhile. Then you and your friend could ask to go to your room and play together. Let the adults get to talk and become friends. Since it will be in her own home, your Mom will feel in control, so it should be more comfortable for her.
3. DON'T sneak around to get to see this friend. That will only create more problems for you with your Mom. She needs to feel that she can trust you. Talk to your friend on the phone. Maybe arrange to meet her at the library/shopping. But tell your Mom you are meeting this friend. Again, Don't sneak around behind your Mom's back.
4. If your Mom tells you to make friends at the KH, explain to your Mom that that is impossible, since all the JW's your age are shunning you. Tell her you need to find "real" friends outside the confinds of that religion, since all frindships within the JW's are "conditional".
Tell her that you need to find some "unconditional" friends - friends that will like you for WHO YOU ARE, not friends that only accept you if you tow the JW line.
5. If all of the above fails, just be patient until you turn 18, then just move out and be on your own. That time will soon be here.
NewLight2
life is tough regardless of whether we were ever jws.
my own life has taken some twists and turns i did not expect or like ... and i have to focus all my attention now on getting my badly needed open-heart surgery or face death in about six months ... so in the next couple of days, i am making the last of three posts for a while ... then all my efforts will be aimed at getting better, and facing some issues in my life and making the best decisions possible for me and my family.
i decided to limit many activities because i tend to do too much and neglect some things that i should not ... this is not a good-bye post, but more of a long vacation post.
You will be alright, Jim. Both my mother and her sister have had open heart surgery. My mother is now 84 (she was 81 at the time of her surgery and had had 3 heart attacks prior to the bypass). Ask a family member to asure you often the first few days after surgery that your vital signs are OK because you will FEEL like hell for the first few hours after surgery. I did this for my mother so that she would not worry about how she was feeling vs how her vital signs were. Please keep the board advised about your progress. Do you know what date you will being having the surgery?
NewLight2
my dad passed away at the hospital today after a lengthy illness.
he was 84 years old.
some of the folks here have known for awhile that he had been ill, and they have been very supportive.
So sorry for your loss.
(((((((Jack2)))))))))
NewLight2
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hey everyone!just wanted to say im doing alittle better..i still didnt say nothing to the elders or my parents about what happened that night,i think i never will,doesnt bother me like i thought it would.i never talked to the guy since,and i really dont care if he doesnt talk to me...i think he tried to call once but i wasnt home,oh well.im moving on.... one thing that irritates me,i ask my parents questions on wts this and that,its always the same crap,jehovah will take care of it..blah blah blah...umm no i dont think he will.he never took care of anything with me,i always did it myself...i also asked them about the witnesses getting molested and abused,and they said just because one person may have done that doesnt mean its the whole org,and they say the person turned away from jehovah....i disagree,i think its a problem with the whole org,they try to hide stuff and cover it up...its just sick,very sick.also they are so judgemental,its sad..sometimes i wish i could tape what they say and play it back to them,to see how they react to themself.i still love them but sometimes i think the wts messed their head up.... also i went to the meeting last night,((gag))same old stuff,people shun me and im not even da or df,i didnt feel like going but i made myself because i knew my mom was gonna put this guilt trip on me,so i didnt feel like arguing with her..all those people are so mean,so unloving,i hate going over there,i think ill pretend im sick or something next time,lol,bye!!
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Shytears wrote,
"Also i went to the meeting last night,((gag))same old stuff,people shun me and im not even da or df"
If you are not DF or DA, then WHY are you being shunned??
Have you been "marked" as a BA??
You might want to ask your parents:
WHY am I being shunned by "Jehovah's Loving Organization"? Then go on to explain that that is why you don't have any interest in going to meetings only to be shunned and treated as if you don't exist by the very ones who are supposed to soooo loving. Go into great detail about how you FEEL about being shunned. Try to get your parents to see the contradiction that exists at the Kingdom Hall.
NewLight2
i'm intersested in learning how all the folks from "down under" portray christmas being that it is a summer holiday there.
you can't have a christmas card displaying "frosty the snowman", a nice winter counry scene with snow falling, santa in a snow sled, or snow covered trees with snow falling.
i'd be interested in having some links posted that contain pics as well as some of the traditional ways that christmas has been celebrated in the past from all of those "down under".. ps - please post links, do not use the 'inframe feature' my browser can't see the inframes.
Stephanus wrote:
"Yep, we do have all the Winter themed cards, a decorated pine tree and we eat a hot roast Christmas dinner, even though Christmas is usually one of the hottest days of the year."
Now THAT really surprizes me. Here in the "frozen North" some wade out in lots of snow to the 'gas grill' (bbq) and cook the turkey outside. Why don't more down under folks fire up the barbie and do the roast, turkey, or steaks etc. outside instead of heating up the house with the oven?
NewLight2
i just got off the phone with carla.
carla and paula's mother has just passed away.
carla said that paula had been checking her post on and off all through the night and that it gave her much comfort in knowing that so many replied and showed that they cared.
(((Paula, Karla and Family))
So sorry to read thus sad news.
Newlight2