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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  I'd also like to add that the 'adgenda' that the courts and the newsmedia want to exploite IS the Right-to-die issue.
  
  I do not want to debate any 'conspiracy theory'. The issue is very simple, in order to use this case to exploite the Right-to-die issue, the abuse issue must be ignored.
  
  NewLight2
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  "So just to clarify your position... you believe that the husband in this case may actually be a criminal. . ." - Euphemism
  
  Let's just cut your statement down to just the above. So, yes, I think that Michael may have committed a crime and the issue needs to be explored within the court system.
  
  NewLight2
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  Euphemism,
  
  The Florida Supreme Court has refused to hear the appeal on many occasions leaving the Schindler's 'up a creek, with no paddle'.
  
  The above mentioned Bone Scan has never been allowed to become part of the court evidence. Judge Greer has repeatedly rejected key evidence in this case.
  
  The Schindler's want this evidence addmitted to the court records, but it seems every thing they have tried in the past has failed to give them this opportunity. Michael, on the other hand, has suceeded in blocking anything from the court records that alledges that he may have been the cause of Terri's current condition.
  
  Most of the news-media has only highlighted the feeding tube removal issue and have not even covered the part about the existing bone scan that has been repeatedly dis-allowed by the court system! Why is this???? Maybe THEY (the news-media) have an adgenda too.
  
  I agree thathttp://www.worldnetdaily.com/ has an adgenda, but I have found they usually have their facts right. I have used their website's archive to gather my information from only because they DO have an extensive and easy to use system - and it is FREE with no registration required. It is a 'quick and dirty' method for me to quickly find the information in print that I remember reading in the past.
  
  My concern in this issue is that IF Michael did abuse Terri and is responsible for causing her current condition, I want HIM to have his day in court, just as Scott Peterson did. Since Judge Greer refuses to admit ALL of the evidence into the court records, and all higher state courts have so far refused to hear the appeals, what other option is there but to appeal to the FEDERAL court syatem? And to do that, Congress needs to act. Michael is trying to destroy potiential evidence by having Terri's feeding tube removed. He has also said that once she dies, she is to be creamated at once with NO autopsy, thereby destroying that source of potential evidence for ever.
  
  In my opinion the right-to-die issue is secondary to the main issue of putting Michael on trial for alledged wife-abuse! If he is guilty, he should be convicted in a court of law the same as Scott Peterson was.
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  Many on this thread have sited that Terri was bulimic and anorexic but have not posted any real proof to that effect. The way I understand it, it is only something that Michael (and company) has testified in court that Terri had. The only Doctors that have testified to that being the case have not actually provided the court with records that state that she was indeed bulimic and anorexic. They have all taken the third parry stance - "If a person is bulimic and anorexic . . .That could result in a person's heart stopping etc. . . " I'm not saying that there is nothing in the court records that actually proves that she had been treated for this disease, only that I don't remember reading anything to that effect.
  
  Could someone provide an article that states that the court does have this proof of evidence that Terri was indeed diagnosed/treated for bulimia and anorexia PRIOR to her heart stopping on that fateful day?
  
  This point IS very important, because the courts ruled in Michael's favor to award him that large money settlement based on the fact that the Doctors were guilty of malpractice!
  
  It is my opinion that Michael's deception played a part in him getting this award in the first place.
  
  The Bone Scan:
  
  Quote taken (and repeated below in context) from an interview which aired on Fox News Channel:
  
  "It's clear there is a possibility that this bone scan represents the true cause of Terri's collapse," Anderson argued. "I cannot imagine a more monstrous situation than a wife beater being made guardian of the woman he nearly beat to death. ... The possibility hangs over this case," she added."
  
  ***************** March 1991 Bone Scan shows head trauma and bone injuries
  
  
  
  
  
  "Interviewed on the Fox News Channel, Dr. Michael Baden, co-director of the Investigative Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago ? which left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak ? and pointed to head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause."
  
  "Baden said he studied a bone scan made in March 1991 at a rehabilitation facility that describes her as having a head injury: ?That's why she's there, that's why she's getting a bone scan.? . . . . ?A head injury can cause, can lead to the vegetative state that Ms. Schiavo is in now," he continued, adding the scan showed evidence of other injuries, bone fractures."
  
  "Baden said the injuries were caused by some kind of trauma. "The trauma can be from an auto accident, the trauma can be from some kind of beating that she obtained from somebody somewhere. It's something that should have been investigated in 1991 when those findings were fresh," and added, "Maybe they were Maybe they were investigated. by the police at that time." As far as Terri's family knows, they were not."
  
  
  
  of the "suspiciously rigid neck" led to the discovery of a report of a full-body nuclear-imaging bone scan done on Terri 13 months after her brain injury. The report describes the accumulation of contrasting agent, or "hot spots," that suggest multiple fractures. In the words of an unnamed physician who reviewed the report at Anderson's request, "Somebody worked her over real good." The report specifically notes a compression fracture of her thigh "which is presumably traumatic," according to the radiologist. Other "hot spots" are suggestive of fractures in her ribs, the first lumbar vertebra and several thoracic vertebrae, both sacroiliac joints, and both knees and ankles. The report states, "the patient has a history of trauma" and "the presumption is that the other multiple abnormal activity ['hot spots'] areas of also relate to previous trauma." . . . . "It appears according to Mediplex records that the bone scan was ordered because Terri was complaining during physical therapy. She was saying 'no' and 'stop,' making noises and grimacing during therapy," Anderson told the court, noting the top of the bone-scan report reads, "evaluate for trauma."
  
  "It's clear there is a possibility that this bone scan represents the true cause of Terri's collapse," Anderson argued. "I cannot imagine a more monstrous situation than a wife beater being made guardian of the woman he nearly beat to death. ... The possibility hangs over this case," she added. "
  
  
  
  
  
  "Bob Schindler, Terri's father . . . wonders what Terri would say about the night she collapsed if she could speak. "He's trying to kill Terri. That's the bottom line. And for the past 10 years he has tried to kill Terri in one form or another," Schindler told WND. "He tried to stop her medication for an infection. She would have died but the nursing home overruled him and treated her. That's when he moved her to another nursing home, by the way. He put a 'do not resuscitate' in her medical files," he continued. "
  
  "In recent days, family members have grown alarmed over finding the temperature in Terri's hospice room repeatedly set at 64 degrees Fahrenheit ? prompting her to begin coughing ? while the rest of the facility is kept warm."
  
  " ?Once malpractice money came in February 1993 she was put on the shelf [in a nursing home]," Anderson declared in her closing arguments. "She hasn't had her teeth cleaned since 1995 when he decided to stop cleaning her teeth," Anderson told WND. "Never had a mammogram. She last had a pap smear in1996.? "
  
  Medical Records Kept Sealed by Court Order at the Request of Michael Schiavo
  
  "Robert and Mary Schindler, knew nothing of the existence of the bone scan until their attorney Patricia Anderson was collecting evidence for a hearing scheduled for October 2002. Prior to that time, Terri's medical records had been kept sealed under court order at the request of her husband, Michael Schiavo"
  
  "The Fox News interview with Michael Baden and information on Terri's fight for life are posted on the family's website." http://www.terrisfight.org/
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  talesin,
  
  To see the pdf and the orig article you will need to regester, but here is what the article said. At the end are more URL's.
  
  http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/11053546.htm
  
  Florida agency had 30 allegations of abuse in Terri Schiavo case
  
  By Christine Schiavo
  
  INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
  
  
  Court documents unsealed today show that Florida's
  Department of Children and Families asked to intervene in the
  Terri Schiavo case because the agency wanted to investigate 30
  allegations of abuse, neglect and exploitation.
  
  In a petition filed Feb. 23, the department had asked a judge to
  delay the removal of the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube,
  saying the agency needed no more than 60 days to investigate
  the allegations against Michael Schiavo, her husband.
  
  Pinellas Circuit Court Judge George Greer will hold a hearing
  on the petition at 1:30 p.m. Wednesday.He recently ordered
  Schiavo's feeding tube removed on March 18.
  
  Schiavo, 41, formerly of Huntingdon Valley, has been
  brain-damaged since 1990 when her heart stopped for several
  minutes from what doctors called a chemical imbalance.
  
  Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have waged a
  controversial legal battle to keep Michael Schiavo, Terri's legal
  guardian, from removing her feeding tube.
  
  Michael Schiavo has said his wife did not want to be kept alive
  by artificial means. The Schindlers have maintained that their
  daughter's condition could improve with proper treatment and
  have sought to have Michael Schiavo removed as guardian.
  
  The Department of Children and Families has not released
  details of the abuse allegations. But among the charges listed in
  the petition were that experimental procedures were performed
  without following proper medical and legal protocol and that
  Terri Schiavo suffered "severe contractures," or shortening of
  the muscles, in her arms due to a lack of proper care.
  
  The petition does not say who made the allegations, which
  were received through the department's hotline on Feb. 18 and
  Feb. 21.
  
  The Schindlers' attorneys did not returned a call for comment.
  Michael Schiavo is expected to issue a statement on the
  petition later today.
  
  Last week, George Felos, Michael Schiavo's lawyer, said that
  the state's entrance into the case stemmed from political
  pressure on Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida lawmakers by
  supporters of the Schindlers and others in the right-to-life
  movement.
  
  The original filing by the agency was kept sealed, but Greer
  opened it after hearing arguments from a Tampa newspaper
  and TV station this week.
  
  Schiavo has been tube fed since 1990. Michael Schiavo was
  successful in having the tube disconnected twice for short
  periods in 2001 and 2003.
  
  The feedings continued after the Florida Legislature passed a
  law giving the governor authority to reinsert the tube in 2003.
  The Florida Supreme Court later found that law
  unconstitutional.
  
  The Schindlers, however, have filed numerous motions in court
  that have postponed the removal of the tube.
  
  
  Contact staff writer Christine Schiavo at 215-348-0337 or
  [email protected].
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  ? Petition by Florida's Department of Children and Families to intervene to investigate abuse allegations PDF
  
  http://www.realcities.com//multimedia/philly/inquirer/KRT_packages/archive/schiavo3-4-05.pdf
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  talesin,
  
  I have been following the Schiavo case since 2003, when Terri's feeding tube was removed and then replaced. I signed up for "Google (news) Alert - Schiavo Terri" at that time. I have read a wide variety of news articles published by numerous newspapers, news agencys and such. I have NOT kept all of the 'Alert' emails that I have recieved. Neither have I bookmarked ALL of the articles I have read. Newspapers tend to delete such articles anyway. Or if they keep them - they charge you to read their archives. I was NOT planning on writing a research paper on this topic, so I do not have access to all of the information that I have read in the past. I remembered reading several articles on Florida's Department of Children and Families complaint that was just unsealed at the beginning of March '05. I went looking for an archived copy tonight that one (CNSNews.com)was the first FREE copy using Google Search that I came to.
  
  http://www.google.com/search?q=Schiavo+Department+of+Children+%26+Families&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=0&sa=N
  
  Here is the URL to a similiar article - but that place NOW requires a person to register to read the archived article. I did not want to take the time to register so I printed out the other one instead.
  http://www.miami.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/pennsylvania/counties/montgomery_county/11056102.htm
  
  If the FACTS are right, what differece does it make where the news article is archived??
  
  Before you discount my research, why not check out the facts for yourself by doing your own research.
  
  NewLight2
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  Abuse Complaint Against Michael Schiavo Made Public
  Cybercast News Service - Alexandria,VA,USA
  The "motion for intervention and stay" charges that Terri Schindler Schiavo's husband has
  abused, neglected and exploited her while seeking the court's ...
  
  http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200503\CUL20050304b.html
  
  (CNSNews.com) - The Florida agency responsible for protecting disabled and elderly individuals released a sealed, 30-count allegation against Michael Schiavo Friday. The "motion for intervention and stay" charges that Terri Schindler Schiavo's husband has abused, neglected and exploited her while seeking the court's permission to end her life.
  
  The Florida Department of Children and Families (DCF) asked Pinellas-Pasco County Circuit Judge George Greer last week to give it 60 days to investigate the 11-page complaint.
  
  The DCF motion, released Friday, argues that the agency cannot complete the investigation or provide Terri with services required by law if the 60-day stay is not granted.
  
  "The allegations in the abuse reports go to the heart of whether abuse, neglect and/or exploitation [have] been perpetrated by [Michael Schiavo]," DCF attorneys wrote, "such that any relief afforded by this court to [him] prior to the conclusion of such investigation would be tragically misplaced."
  
  The complaint accuses Schiavo of:
  
  Failure to exercise Terri's arms, resulting in "severe contractures,"
  Failure to provide appropriate medical therapy,
  Failure to investigate the rehabilitation value of newly available technologies,
  Interference in communication with and visitation by Terri's family members and friends,
  Denial of access to independent legal counsel,
  Failure to file guardianship reports as required by law,
  Failure to provide required legal notices to Terri, and
  Performing experimental procedures without following proper medical and legal procedures.
  
  The agency concluded that an injunction against Michael Schiavo removing Terri's feeding tube, "would prevent irreparable and immediate harm from occurring by allowing these and other allegations to be investigated."
  
  The agency also reminded Judge Greer that "The court's determination that it has reviewed some or all of these facts does not relieve DCF from discharging its investigative duties."
  
  The motion notes that DCF is bound by Florida law to investigate the allegations and that the courts have been denied authority to prohibit such investigations. Additionally, the agency is responsible for providing protective services to disabled individuals when their loved ones cannot or will not provide those services.
  
  "Plainly stated, due to the investigation and potential need for examination of the alleged victim, surroundings and circumstances as required by law," DCF attorneys wrote, "DCF is interested, directly and immediately, in that part of the guardianship proceeding which calls for the removal of life support, because such action would deny DCF's ability to meet its statutory duty."
  
  Greer is expected to rule next week on whether he will allow the agency to intervene in the case and proceed with its investigation. If he refuses, DCF could seek a protective order from a higher court giving the agency access to Terri and forbidding anyone from removing her feeding tube.
  
  George Felos, attorney for Schiavo and a recognized "right-to-die" advocate and author, has previously denied that his client was mistreating Terri in any way. He accused DCF's actions of being politically motivated.
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  "And that's exactly my point. Since when is investigating medical
  malpractice (or even domestic abuse) remotely Congress' responsibility? The Florida courts have been looking at this matter for 15 years. I don't see what Congress is going to find that the courts haven't already examined."--Euphemism
  
  Ok now, this is only my opinion:
  
  I think that somehow Judge Greer, (who has been the primary judge in all this mess) has somehow joined forces with Michael and his co-horts. He has decided to 'close his eyes' to any evidence that seems to run contrary to Michael's position.
  
  Appealing to Congress is the ONLY way to break this cycle and to allow a reasonable look at the OTHER side of the coin.
  
  If, and I do say IF, Michael caused this to happen, don't you think that Terri's parents deserve to present this evidence in court. Judge Greer will NOT allow them to do this!
  
  NewLight2
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  bisous,
  
  World Net Daily is a private Online NewsMagazine. It supports itself with ADVertising, as does CNN.Com et all. I linked to ONE article on that site. At the bottom of that ONE article that I linked to are lots of links, and when followed will spell out the allegations of abuse by Michael toward Terri.
  
  Did you read ALL of those linked articles?
  
  NewLight2
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  WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is apparently no chance at all of her ever recovering from her present state, but do you think she should live or die?

  for myself, i think she's better off dead than living---no, existing---in her present state.

  i for one, have instructed my family to let me die if something like this ever happened to me.

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  NewLight2

  "But here's the part that really bothers me: why is Congress getting
  involved?" --Euphemism
  
  Congress is getting involved becqause it wants to buy time to investigate the allegations that Michael has been an abusive husbandand may have been the direct cause for Terri's condition.
  
  I'm working on a post that will back up the need to investigate this allegation further.
  
  Here is another link to back up my statements: