Posts by NewYork44M

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What is spirit, exactly?

by Viviane in

i've always wondered that.

recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.

cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?

NewYork44M

Wow Viv, what a great question and great responses. I am not sure what it means that you have reached page 28 on posts, but I'll bet you had no idea you question would hit such a nerve.

In any event, As far as I am concerned the spirit is what we take from previous generations and hopefully move forward.

As an example, I hope that what I do now is aligned with what my mother considered important. I also hope that she fulfilled, at least in part, the goals from prior generations. And the spirit of the family continues. I hope that my children and their children can finish what I will be unable to complete.

If that happens then my life created value.

I have spent a great deal of time, recently, visualizing the life of my grandparents. I am not sure how this fits in to your questions, but I suspect that it has a lot to do with the general theme of what I consider to be my spirit.

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1975 end prediction

by FL_Panthers in

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does anyone have the article written by the wt saying that the end would come in 1975?.

how did people back then come to this year?

i need this information becuase i was told, this was never literally written by the wt in any publication.. thanks.

NewYork44M

In the early 1970s my father got a vanity auto license plate with the number "1975." We were pretty cool within the congregation. No one can tell me that 1975 was not a big deal. I distinctly remember when I realized that my year of high school graduation coincided with the end of the world.

Having the honor of graduating high school 1975 I can assure all that 1975 was a watershed year for the organization. Unfortunately this event screwed up my life. I have moved on but not without a lot of pain.

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What do you call a person who . . . ?

by Terry in

what do you call a person who keeps promising to do something for you--but won't get up off their ass and do it?.

what do you call a person who needs money from you all the time and doesn't pay it back?.

what do you call a person who keeps you waiting and waiting and then, they don't show up?.

NewYork44M

yea, yea, all that is true - but he loves you.

And BTW, he can't handle money so he needs more.

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The Rants of a Dumbass Elder Still Serving

by TTATTelder in

ok in the effort of full disclosure, i have had a couple of drinks and recently experienced a circuit assembly and a bad experience with a co.. i don't know where to effing begin.

first of all the circuit assembly was a joke.

half the assembly was about pioneering and selling your soul to be a no-pay salesman for the borg.

NewYork44M

It is wonderful how a little alcohol clarifies the issues. I have experienced that. In fact, more than a few meetings I attended were proceeded with one or two gin and tonics.

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Are we here for each other ? To support each other ? through crisis ?

by smiddy in

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a poster who joined this site some five years ago , luo bou to , and offered his two cents worth , so to speak , about his experinces , and spiralling downfall to his marriage and faith and how it had left him , posted a number of posts ?

about his journey ?

and gained a great deal of satisfaction and solidarity from this site.. use the search engine for his previous posts .

NewYork44M

Lou, I am sorry to hear about your health issues. Thank you for your insights.

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Has Harry Peloyan passed away?

by VM44 in

harry peloyan was the editor of the awake!

magazine for decades.. it has been claimed that he passed away in the year 2005.. but....i cannot find any record for him in the social security death index.. his wife, rose, is listed, but harry peloyan is not.. could harry peloyan still be alive?.

if he did die, why isn't his name listed in the social security death index?.

NewYork44M

I remember his death talked about on this site.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/91744/1/Harry-Peloyan-DEAD#.U4u7D7XD_IU

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What is the current Net worth of the Watchtower Society?

by Scott77 in

as of june 01,2014, please what do you think in term of us dollars, is the current net worth of the watchtower society?.

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NewYork44M

In the billions.

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Congregation rebels!

by A.proclaimer in

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my congregation got a reminder today to start donating money.

elder said that after the letter on the new donation arrangement was read, the contributions for that fund went from the average (i believe it was $500 or so) to $0.

after that reminder, cash was put into those boxes.

NewYork44M

Dazed, great minds think alike. The best quote fro George Carlin:

"He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE

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What is the key to free yourself from the Organization?

by suavojr in

they key to free yourself from the organization is having mental clarity of what is happening in relation to the watchtower, inside and out.

their basic concept is that they are god's sole organization on earth.

there really is no basis for anyone to make that statement.

NewYork44M

Learning TTATT is just the beginning. There are many within the organization that knows it is a lie but won't or can't leave.

Leaving requires great effort, a plan, and an willingness to accept the ultimate cost of friends and family. Some, unfortunately do not have the tenacity to do what it takes to leave. Don't think this is easy or that I am critical. I learned TTATT young enough to do something about it. Leaving the organization was the hardest thing I have ever done, but the effort was worth it.

In a different situation, age or other constraints, I could easily have decided that it is not worth the effort and simply assimilate into just one more of the walking dead within the organization.

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Are you complicit if you stay in?

by mrhhome in

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i am going to throw down the gaunlet.

those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.

while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.

NewYork44M

Once you understand TTATT you realize how scary your situation is. I would never NEVER judge someone who is in this situation.

What you may consider “complicit” may be someone trying to figure out what to do and in the meantime maintaining as close to a normal life as possible.

I have been in that situation and can tell you that an accusation that I might be "complicit" would have probably put me over the edge.

Let's all settle down and understand that this journey is sometimes long and almost always painful. Getting out at the other end is not a guarantee. And then, once you are out you have to deal with the rest of your life.

Instead of accusing someone within the organization that knows TTATT, let's cut them a little slack and acknowledge that this is a journey – and a long one.