i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.
" yeah, yeah, i know.
we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.
Does anyone here recall attending talks of a similar nature in years or decades past, where the belief was that the Great Tribulation was finally imminent?
Growing up in the Wt cult from the 1960s, I recall every event supporting the belief that the end was imminent. It was quite exhausting.
i left wt, 18 years ago.
never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.
i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.
It is all about definitions.
We may have a definition of a bible study and bible studies are down, simply change the definition:
So if a rank & file JW makes a 5 minute long front door step return visit...it now is worthy of being called a Bible Study
Losing pioneers, simply change the hour qualifications. What is it now?
Publishers are down, call anyone who puts in 15 minutes a publisher.
You may call it fraud, the Wt is simply redefining what they measure.
i hear that a hall was burned down in washington state.
was shot at numerous times.
is the wbts that desperate to merge congo's and collect insurance money and now the land has no building on it the land can be sold with no demo expense.
The Washington Post had an article today about this
for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.
some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.
so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.
So, this is CLAM format. UGG! I listened to about 20 minutes and found the meeting dreadful.
not to offend or impose my opinion.
but simply i would like to see just news and insights from the local congregation to the top organization level of: downsizing, closings, c.s.a.
personal experiences,unscriptural doctrines of the org.and direct commentary of the above.
I have gotten very selective about the threads I read. I ignore a lot of content. I excise my free will without imposing my preferences on others.
i came across this website when i was looking for some emotional/mental support lately as i was summoned by elders to explain someone’s report on me saying “i’m promoting homosexuality”.
i’m inactive, not attending meetings or associating with jw outside of my biological family for almost 2 years now.. yes i am gay (you can judge away) and yes it is in a direct contrast to the scriptures, no arguement about it.. i was brought up in a jw family.
my dad is a typical zealot, he literally talks or thinks about the bible 24/7.
Welcome to the forum. I doubt you will be judged by anyone on this board for your sexual orientation.
While the elders want to meet with you, I am what you have to gain. Unless you are ready to renounce your gayness, which you cant, there is no positive outcome in a meeting.
Best wishes for your future success.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fejicdbls&t=1915s.
in the december 2018 jw broadcasting episode, jehovah's witnesses are told to put faith in the faithful and discreet slave(once again), have admiration for angels, expect a gradual future resurrection, consider jesus in his preexisting life and how he learned from god to exercise love.
enjoy!.
I can't wait for John Cedars 3 hour review of this broadcast (really I can't).
I have the same question about saying "God bless." You will never catch a JW saying "God bless."
I usually avoid saying good luck. To me, this implies that success is outside a person's control. I prefer saying, best wishes. Do JWs, have a problem saying "best wishes?" Strange enough, I also say "God Bless" a lot. I am not sure why, given that I don't believe in god.
i was just wondering , why would my jw husband return to been a full blown baptized jw after 20 years of fading?.
he has spent 20 years of his life been a worldly person , with a worldly wife & kids & worldly friends .... to joining the borg full time , to getting baptized , to getting new brothers & sisters .... and to writing off most of his worldly friends (some his known his whole life ) , to trying to convince me & our children how wonderful this org is ......and anyone else who will listen :(.
has anyone ever experienced this ...... oh and he seems to be in it 110% and no-one can say anything about this crazy org or show him proof that it all bs...... his such a clever independent , successful guy , why on earth would he go back to this , after been out for so many years & change into this domineering , opinionated fool ..... oh and his entire family also went back ... father , mother , brother & sister .
I cannot imagine anything that would bring me back. Perhaps a gun to my head. It would have to be a literal gun, there is nothing else that could be to coerce me to go back.
Even if I was promised free alcohol and lap dances, I would not go back.
so our family fade is well under way.
we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".
we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.
My fade started with a move to another state - 4 congregations later and I was long forgotten. I had no need to say goodbye with a one-liner.
