Posts by NewYork44M

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"Hello from Phats"

by phats in

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hay out there.. wife got back from her thursday meeting & now she's setteled down with the dog, a v large g&t (maid be me) & watching terminator 2 on the telly with her ipad on her lap looking up places to go for our holiday (& googling symptoms of to many antibiotics as my 16 year old is getting signs of ibs).

so now is a good time to say hello.. well hello.

my name is phats & i'm an ex jehovah's witness.. there, i've said it.. this must be like it is going to your first aa meeting.. i've already used up some of my posts for a newbe but i'm not in to the whole long story thing.. basically i've been out now for 8 years (mentally out for all but four or five of those years of my life when i made the commitment, got baptized & married.).

NewYork44M

Welcome Phats, you are a great story teller. I look forward to many posts from you.

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IS Science Absolute Truth

by seekchristonly in

if we have faith in science and scientific claims about the universe, origins of life etc.

is that absolute truth.

if so then if they declare that god exists with evidence then do all those who believe in science then believe in god or a creator.

NewYork44M

I'm not knocking science. Something is good until it is not...

James, science is a process of discovery. I am not sure you are talking about the process, or the results of various experiments and inquiries.

If you can come up with a better research method and design, let me and the world know.

If you want to question the results - that is acceptable - and encouraged. Just be prepared to justify your questions with an alternative hypothesis.

Debating scientific discovery is fun and actually moves research forward.

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Books that changed your life-

by new hope and happiness in

i am not much of a reader as i have two many distractions, but i fancy a challenging read, so please list any book that has changed your entire world view on everything.

i remember as a teenager buying at a yard sale, norman vincent peales " the power of positive thinking" and at the time that had a big impact on me.

but i am a little bit more in to " realistic positive thinking" now..

NewYork44M

Nonjwspouse, the tea party has given Ayn Rand a bad name. There are good people who appreciate here writing. It really did make a difference in my life.

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Disfellowshipping - The 10 year rule?

by Gembean in

is it true there is a 10 year rule?

i was reading on here when i saw someone quote it?

i've never heard of it before!.

NewYork44M

Gem, I hope my comments did not give the impression that I am discounting your struggles. It sounds like you have gone through hell. If it is meant to be that you should speak to these folks, I can assure you that it will happen. But I hope you don't go back just to complete a relationship that was not meant to be.

Just this week I connected with a person that I have wondered about. Keep your facebook available for those who might be interested in how you are doing.

Good luck

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Disfellowshipping - The 10 year rule?

by Gembean in

is it true there is a 10 year rule?

i was reading on here when i saw someone quote it?

i've never heard of it before!.

NewYork44M

Gem - new congregration and it doesn't matter. I think it is pretty easy to start a new life in jw land. But the question is - Why?

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Your final WTF? Moment!

by restrangled in

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it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.

i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.

i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!

NewYork44M

Wow, talesin - I am sorry.

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Your final WTF? Moment!

by restrangled in

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friends

it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.

i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.

i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!

NewYork44M

I have had a few, but my last was my last meeting where the CO stated: "we don't think we have the truth - we KNOW we have the truth."

That was it - I was out of there like a bat out of hell.

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Disfellowshipping - The 10 year rule?

by Gembean in

is it true there is a 10 year rule?

i was reading on here when i saw someone quote it?

i've never heard of it before!.

NewYork44M

I am aware of a few situations where a df individual floated back into the organization and were welcomed with opened arms.

The key is to cover your trail. But the question is WHY?

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IS Science Absolute Truth

by seekchristonly in

if we have faith in science and scientific claims about the universe, origins of life etc.

is that absolute truth.

if so then if they declare that god exists with evidence then do all those who believe in science then believe in god or a creator.

NewYork44M

ADCMS, thank you for calling a foul. There has got to be rules to these discussions.

Fouls are acts committed by players which are considered deemed by the referee to be unfair and are subsequently penalized. I here by designate you, ADCMS, the referee of this thread.

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Atheism is a Belief System

by seekchristonly in

is atheism a belief system.

after all the atheist believes there is no god .so if that's the case then an atheist if a person of faith.

they have faith in the fact there is no god.

NewYork44M

I believe in myself. Other than that you can all go to hell! I mean that in the nicest way.

That being said, the whole concept of a belief system (i.e. the watchtower) is something that I have no interest in.