Posts by MoneurMallard

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Anwar Al-Awlaki and due process any thoughts?

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recently anwar al-awlaki was killed by the u.s. government.

he was a u.s. citizen, and no due process was given, he was just killed outright, no arrest, no trial, no court.. any thoughts?.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/3/al-awlaki-would-have-been-difficult-to-try-as-a-ci/?utm_source=rss_feed&utm_medium=rss.

MoneurMallard

Wow. Didn't know ex-JW's were into politics this much. My opinion on this is thus:

Regardless of my personal feelings about the individual in question, his rights were violated as a U.S. Citizen, and due process was not carried out. The fact that he may very well have been a dangerous threat to society does not supercede the Magna Carta which has been in place for more than 800 years. The constitution in part was drafted based on that document, and we the people, are now at risk from the government killing any one of us just based upon accusation alone.

It doesn't matter that the first act of this kind was carried out on a terrorist al-queda supporter, it had to be in order for us to buy into it and allow it to happen under our noses.

If we go with the thinking of ssn587, we are susceptible to getting killed by the CIA or FBI at a moments notice, without being able to provide witnesses, evidence or challenge our accusers in court. What if this man isn't guilty? The media is our only source of information, and they're simply relying on what the government is telling them. What if there are witnesses that could prove he was innocent of the charges?

Take the Casey Anthony trial for instance, although I personally think she had to have known what happened to her daughter, I don't know whether or not she herself killed the child, or whether the child drowned in a pool, fell out of the car, walked out into traffic at night, swallowed chemicals/poison, etc, any number of possibilities. Her defense attorney provided reasonable doubt in her case. The media and most Americans thought she was guilty of murder, despite no evidence of murder being brought to the court. The prosecution in this case, in my opinion, didn't charge her properly. They should have charged her with serious neglect of a child, child endangerment, and culpable manslaughter, at least that way, she would have done some time in prison.

Anyway, just my thoughts, but I know a trial and conviction and death sentence would have been a suitable alternative to just violating his rights and murdering him.

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Active JW's Need A New Title From US.... Logic Demands It!

by MoneurMallard in

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ok, i've reviewed the current labels for the active jw people we all know or may not know.... i like borg, that's the funniest one i've heard yet for the wt society as a collective whole.

as individuals i believe you call them soashes?

kind of like the outsiders?

MoneurMallard

Cant' leave, I love yours too... damn so many to choose from, I might just have to make up a variety pack for each Kingdom House.

I say "house" because most of the "halls" I've seen around my area look like thre construction is residential rather than commercial/religious.

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Here Comes "The Sun"

by MoneurMallard in

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what are everyone's thoughts on the concept of a solar deity in relation to the jesus story?.

now this is something i have entertained over the years, the stunning relationship of the solar myths and the way the gospels describe jesus' death and resurrection as compared with the roman saturnalia.

it's odd that jw's are about to recognize that christmas doesn't originate with christ (thank god for that because i still celebrate christmas and don't care if it has anything to do with a religious figure or not, i celebrate it because i like the idea of giving people gifts, i love the smell of the trees, i love the lights, snow, all of it... i could care less if a thousand year old prophet in another continent thinks it's a "custom of the nations".... well i love america and it's a nation that deserves to be thankful for it's luck of the draw, and if it wants to mix customs and holidays, so be it..... your thoughts, fellow ex-socks?.

MoneurMallard

I forgot also there is a Cathedral somewhere built on top of an ancient temple that belonged to the cult of the Mithras, where the words "You must eat my flesh and drink my blood" are inscribed on the cave walls beneath it... I believe it's in Turkey somewhere, and dates back several hundred years before the New Testament was ever a document.

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Anwar Al-Awlaki and due process any thoughts?

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

recently anwar al-awlaki was killed by the u.s. government.

he was a u.s. citizen, and no due process was given, he was just killed outright, no arrest, no trial, no court.. any thoughts?.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/3/al-awlaki-would-have-been-difficult-to-try-as-a-ci/?utm_source=rss_feed&utm_medium=rss.

MoneurMallard

Recently Anwar Al-Awlaki was killed by the U.S. Government. He was a U.S. citizen, and no due process was given, he was just killed outright, no arrest, no trial, no court.

Any thoughts?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/3/al-awlaki-would-have-been-difficult-to-try-as-a-ci/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

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Active JW's Need A New Title From US.... Logic Demands It!

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

ok, i've reviewed the current labels for the active jw people we all know or may not know.... i like borg, that's the funniest one i've heard yet for the wt society as a collective whole.

as individuals i believe you call them soashes?

kind of like the outsiders?

MoneurMallard

Blacksheep, could you elaborate a bit more on this? What I am planning is quite serious, I am definitely going to use my American right to do exactly what they do to my home and neighbors, only at their establishment. The only illegal part would be the modification of their property by mounting a sign. I went through the garage, checked the batteries in my DeWalt hammer drill (18v lithium ion) and everything is now in order for attaching the metal sign with a bead of gorilla glue or liquid nails (or both) on the backside to the stucco and brick portions of the various Kingdom Halls, along with 4 tapcons in the corners. Good luck removing that without taking out some of the wall it's attached to...

Attention Orange Country Sheriff's Deputies: I will be driving multiple vehicles to attempt this, so please don't put out any BOLOS for just one particular make and model of Italian sports car.

Thank you,

Andrew

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Here Comes "The Sun"

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

what are everyone's thoughts on the concept of a solar deity in relation to the jesus story?.

now this is something i have entertained over the years, the stunning relationship of the solar myths and the way the gospels describe jesus' death and resurrection as compared with the roman saturnalia.

it's odd that jw's are about to recognize that christmas doesn't originate with christ (thank god for that because i still celebrate christmas and don't care if it has anything to do with a religious figure or not, i celebrate it because i like the idea of giving people gifts, i love the smell of the trees, i love the lights, snow, all of it... i could care less if a thousand year old prophet in another continent thinks it's a "custom of the nations".... well i love america and it's a nation that deserves to be thankful for it's luck of the draw, and if it wants to mix customs and holidays, so be it..... your thoughts, fellow ex-socks?.

MoneurMallard

My favorite lines come from Trek.

KIRK:"Scotty, do you think you could fabricate these walls to hold water?"

SCOTTY:"I suppose so Captain, ya plannin' to take a swim?"

BONES:"Off the deep end, Mr. Scott"

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Active JW's Need A New Title From US.... Logic Demands It!

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

ok, i've reviewed the current labels for the active jw people we all know or may not know.... i like borg, that's the funniest one i've heard yet for the wt society as a collective whole.

as individuals i believe you call them soashes?

kind of like the outsiders?

MoneurMallard

Punkofnice, do I have your permission to copy this and use it on an aluminum sign? I'm planning on printing about 20 or so for the Orlando area Kingdom Halls.

Gladiator, I may want to use your "We scare because we do not care" logo, quite fitting with the Armageddon threat and such. Or possibly the "Happiness is a Kingdom Hall Exit Sign" logo...

My only problem now is that I want to find a stake (no pun intended) that will allow me to erect (pun intended) the sign in a fashion that will be difficult to remove. Something that can be inserted into the ground quickly but will require a cutting wheel to remove the post.

I may need assistance. Does anyone here have experience in mixing concrete? I'm thinking the best method may be to just throw a bag of "Quick-crete" (TM) on the ground break it open, pour a gallon of water on it, and push the sign into it right there at the front doors to the Halls. Did I just capitalize "Halls"? Sorry, meant to say "Walls"

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Here Comes "The Sun"

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

what are everyone's thoughts on the concept of a solar deity in relation to the jesus story?.

now this is something i have entertained over the years, the stunning relationship of the solar myths and the way the gospels describe jesus' death and resurrection as compared with the roman saturnalia.

it's odd that jw's are about to recognize that christmas doesn't originate with christ (thank god for that because i still celebrate christmas and don't care if it has anything to do with a religious figure or not, i celebrate it because i like the idea of giving people gifts, i love the smell of the trees, i love the lights, snow, all of it... i could care less if a thousand year old prophet in another continent thinks it's a "custom of the nations".... well i love america and it's a nation that deserves to be thankful for it's luck of the draw, and if it wants to mix customs and holidays, so be it..... your thoughts, fellow ex-socks?.

MoneurMallard

Leolaia, I salute you. Well established treatise indeed.

I was wondering who would catch the misinterpretation, and yes, I meant to refer to the Roman Sol Invictus... so many ancient Mediterranean myths it's hard to keep track of them all.

To elaborate my second point in the thread, which was actually my intent, though, how many of you celebrate Christmas now? I know I like the modern holiday, and man of my friends do, despite it's custom's origin or source.

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Active JW's Need A New Title From US.... Logic Demands It!

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

ok, i've reviewed the current labels for the active jw people we all know or may not know.... i like borg, that's the funniest one i've heard yet for the wt society as a collective whole.

as individuals i believe you call them soashes?

kind of like the outsiders?

MoneurMallard

Just to elaborate a bit more... Mottos and catch phrases would be greatly appreciated too. Sort of like Burger King has "Home of the whopper" (which would also apply to the Kingdom Hall too), but we can't use that one, it's copywrited.

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Active JW's Need A New Title From US.... Logic Demands It!

by MoneurMallard in

jw
friends

ok, i've reviewed the current labels for the active jw people we all know or may not know.... i like borg, that's the funniest one i've heard yet for the wt society as a collective whole.

as individuals i believe you call them soashes?

kind of like the outsiders?

MoneurMallard

Ok, I've reviewed the current labels for the active JW people we all know or may not know...

I like borg, that's the funniest one I've heard yet for the WT society as a collective whole. As individuals I believe you call them soashes? Kind of like the Outsiders? Are there also greasers?

Just kidding... I know it's "soc"..

Anyway, how about we all put our heads together and coin a new term? Something fun for us to do while being "POLITELY RUDE" right back at them?

It doesn't have to be anything vulgar, despite the fact that my suggestion is:

"FUCKHEADS"

Any contribution will be helpful, I'm planning to take your suggestions down to my print shop (I own three in the Orlando Area) and have some professional looking signs made up and erect them at the various congregation halls around town. I may need someone to drive me home from the Orange County Jail (I can afford my own bail) but if any of you are around the Central Florida area, I may call upon you...

Andrew