@ darkspilver. I was "admonished" to read those same articles you reference, but i thought "You got to be kidding me! That's such an old article I can't do the mental math to figure out how old it is!!" + weren't we on our way INTO paradise according to the '75 prophecy? If I were at the helm of the WT ship at the time I would've said, "let's get this party started!! Clothing optional!! Unless you're physically ugly. In that case, keep your clothes on!
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cleveland ohio RC notes
by nowwhat? inpeak attendance 7100. baptised 38 mixed bag of old and young.
youngest age 10. saw no brothers with beards.
better than average .50% growth.
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cleveland ohio RC notes
by nowwhat? inpeak attendance 7100. baptised 38 mixed bag of old and young.
youngest age 10. saw no brothers with beards.
better than average .50% growth.
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@ UnshackleTheChains. I wonder given the "free will" the BORG preaches whether they'll ever openly allow beards. I had thought about the many immigrants coming into Europe and what are they being told when they SEE brothers with beards. I had even been told that some European brothers are giving substantial assignments on stage (I'm in the ministry school and find myself in front of the congregation on occasion). As in my case, I would imagine those that see me for the first time will have to reason things out in their little minds. Also, all those ultra conservative JW's who conduct studies with hairy people will have to explain things TRUTHFULLY, so as not to appear unreasonable. I've actually seen studies come to the meetings for months with facial hair and i LOVE it! Let's piss people off, I say!!
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cleveland ohio RC notes
by nowwhat? inpeak attendance 7100. baptised 38 mixed bag of old and young.
youngest age 10. saw no brothers with beards.
better than average .50% growth.
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@ UnshackleTheChains. And, this whole time I was told by many brothers that it's allowable for brothers in Europe to grow beards bc it's their "custom" (unlike in the US). I'm quickly figuring out that their reasoning is a copout. It just seems brothers everywhere are realizing that there is nothing wrong with it! In our congregation, all but a few were completely fine with my growing a beard. They simply didn't see what the big deal was.
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by nowwhat? inpeak attendance 7100. baptised 38 mixed bag of old and young.
youngest age 10. saw no brothers with beards.
better than average .50% growth.
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@ Rubadub. I've see pics of brothers in California with short beards. I know of many brothers in Oregon with beards. The look is also being seen much more in Washington state. I don't hear of any other parts of the US where it is being seen. Maybe it's a Wild West type mentality.
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by nowwhat? inpeak attendance 7100. baptised 38 mixed bag of old and young.
youngest age 10. saw no brothers with beards.
better than average .50% growth.
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No beards. That's disappointing
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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."
by Muddy Waters inthis was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.
feel free to add your own observations and experience.
the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.
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It's not a church (temple), it's a Kingdom Hall
They're not hymns, they're Kingdom melodies
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Grooming as a Witness
by Jules Saturn ingrowing up as a teenager, i would occasionally get some counseling for having my hair a bit too long by a couple of elders in the congregation.
one time i cut my hair shorter than usual and one elder said i was cutting it too short!
so it made me feel like anything i did wouldn't satisfy them.
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Sandino
I remember having a public talk scheduled for a Sunday, so on a Saturday afternoon I went and had my haircut. It was a HORRIBLE cut!! So bad, that I thought, there's no way I'm going to a neighboring congregation looking like this!!! So, I took shears to it. I felt it was MUCH better. But no. Not good enough, because after the meeting an elder counseled me on having SHORT hair. I thought, "you just can't please anyone!" 15 years later, he saw me again with the SAME short do he had counseled me on, except he kept silent on the issue.
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Grooming as a Witness
by Jules Saturn ingrowing up as a teenager, i would occasionally get some counseling for having my hair a bit too long by a couple of elders in the congregation.
one time i cut my hair shorter than usual and one elder said i was cutting it too short!
so it made me feel like anything i did wouldn't satisfy them.
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@ Incognito. I used my growing of my beard as an incentive to disqualify me from the platform and it WORKED!! It took a while for the elders to figure out what to do with me, but I just couldn't just blurt out what I WANTED them to do to me. Now, I just warm the seat, rocking my beard, go out in service (sadly, I couldn't get everything I wished) and I'm happy, happy, happy.
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The beard issue
by Ray Frankz inthis is my second topic here.
sorry for this biiig post.
i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.
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Ray, what's REALLY amusing to me though is that there were SOME that were bothered by my decision of having a beard and I'm sure they imagined that once the higher ups talked to me I wouldn't hesitate in cutting it off. Nope. So, now I continue to have my beard (intentionally not well trimmed), continue to be involved in the Ministry School, go out in the ministry, and answer in the meetings. So, win-win for me.
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The beard issue
by Ray Frankz inthis is my second topic here.
sorry for this biiig post.
i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.
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Hey Ray, I TOTALLY know where you're coming from. I was actually just removed from a priviledge of service because of my beard. In total I had 5 SEPARATE meetings with differing elders and CO's. All trying to convince me to cut it off. Despite all by biblical reasoning (which is pretty solid), they simply wouldn't listen, opting to view matters through the eyes of the spiritually weak-minded brothers in the area.