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  Tuxedo Park, NY: WT pays 3.2M for building

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.costar.com/news/article/watchtower-bible-and-tract-society-of-ny-pay-$32m-for-flex-building/132207.

  watchtower bible and tract society of ny pay $3.2m for flex buildinginternational paper company sells research and development facility in tuxedo parkby erica dollseptember 21, 2011. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, a non-profit association, acquired the flex building in tuxedo park, ny from international paper for $3.2 million, or about $17 per square foot.

  the building was delivered in 1969 at 1422 long meadow road.

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  nateb

  I gave them many thousands in free labor and talent. But they'd charge me for the "practice" if they could.

  Good to see things clearly now.
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  I'M EXPLAINING WHY I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE ORGANISATION TO A JW! HELP NEEDED!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an email i received from one of my friends who is still a jw.

  she would like to know my feelings on the matter of organisation now that im disfellowshipped.

  i have written my thoughts below the email.

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  nateb

  You don't need to explain yourself. As long as you understand what you believe with authenticity and clarity you'll be well. This cult member doesn't want to hear your thoughts and is immune to your logic, at least for the time being. If, on the other hand, you find it cathartic or otherwise personally beneficial to put it down in writing, knock yourself out.

  Just my two cents based on lots of hours lost to just such exercises.
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  What Do You Like For A Drink?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i'm usually a cognac drinker.

  i love armagnac too.

  and i enjoy a martini i invented---mandarin vodka with a slight bit, usually about a capful of chambord served in an ice cold martini glass.. this saturday i'm mixing with my gf's friends and family in conn. with some affluent people and i might want to try something different.

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  nateb

  A perfect Manhattan with a twist. With Woodford Reserve or Maker's Mark.
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  I started a new relationship

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a girl friend that i like very much.

  we have been together about a month now.

  we talk about religion some times and i tell her i am christian and leave it at that.

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  nateb

  Yes. Many eerie similarities between LDS and JW. An important question to ask yourself is what's she looking for in the LDS church? That will tell you a lot about where she's coming from. Good luck.
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  Belief to non-belief

  by Awen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have anyone here went from being a very strict believer in god to a non-believer?.

  actually i think many are.. but outside of the usual answers of "god doesn't exist" (which you must have had some very valid reasons for), were there many things that caused you to come to this conclusion?

  i was watching a southpark video about joseph smith and the mormons and i thought it very funny that anyone could actually believe any of that stuff.

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  nateb

  Maybe it's pride, maybe it's just that it is too painful to admit this life is all you get.

  Honest observation. And yet it's that realization that makes life so much more rich and wondrous. The world of the non-believer is pregnant with possibility and opportunity. The high of the joy of experience rewards us for the mundane lows. In contrast, the believer often finds herself passively killing time in this life, longing for another that's never to arrive.

  "For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life."
  - Albert Camus

  "You can't create experience, you undergo it." - Albert Camus
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  Songs you play when very sad

  by JRK in

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  2. friends

  here is one i am listening to:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsfl6atx1i4&feature=related.

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  nateb

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDMeEtUCq54
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  So who is going to do some kind of protest next Sunday?

  by serenitynow! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  next sunday is the discussion of the 7/15/2011 wt article about shunning.

  i am planning to stand outside of a kh on a major street with a big banner that says that the jws do indeed destroy families with their shunning policy.

  i will have many copies of the article that will be discussed that day.. anyone else have any plans?.

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  nateb

  The best protest you can stage is doing something that makes you feel more at peace and more positive about your life. Reading a book with a nice brunch. A walk in nature. Volunteering to help those more in need. Making improvements to your dwelling. Planning a trip to a place you've never been to. Etc. Etc. Whatever works for you. This in turn will make you a more positive influence in all the lives you touch. You gave enough time and emotional energy to the cult. Don't give them a second more.
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  If You Had 5 minutes to Create Doubt

  by roxanesophia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i regularly encounter jw's i knew while studying and it kills me that they would likely not listen long enough for me to tell them the truth about the truth.

  my mother says "don't even bother.

  it's like finding out you were adopted.

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  I always comment on how tired and exhausted they look. This prompts them to vent about the rigorous JW schedule. Then I ask if they're happy. Invariably they say yes. Then I say that's great and that's all that matters. Then I say just so you're not expecting the end to come in your lifetime and you're planning for a good long life you're on the right track. Then I wish them well and remind them that I'm available to them.
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  What is Armageddon For?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  armageddon is a military exercise where the nations will be judged in the "valley of decision" for how they treated israel in regard to dividing that land.

  it is not to destroy the wicked as the wt teaches.

  the wicked are destroyed from the effects of adam in that all die.. i will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

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  nateb

  Thanks for clearing that up.
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  Is It Love? Or is it Selfishness?

  by JamesThomas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jehovah's witnesses, we are programmed to believe that what we do is out of love.

  love for god, our family and neighbors.

  this sounds good and it feels good.

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  nateb

  The Watchtower manipulates minds by manipulating language. Only after leaving have I begun to understand the real meaning of words like "love" and "spirituality".