quote from that world wide resolution: .
that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.
this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.
oncebitten, you don't have to convince me about Watchtower's insane pyramidology period, I'm aware of it. All I'm questioning is your claim that Watchtower (via it's IBSA arm) is still selling Russell's publications.
Don't put the onus on me or anyone else to disprove your claim, it's YOUR responsibility to prove it.
quote from that world wide resolution: .
that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.
this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.
So the claim that Watchtower controlled IBSA is selling CT Russell publications is completely bogus then?
quote from that world wide resolution: .
that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.
this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.
IBSA in London still sells the writings of Charles Taze Russel; while the ET currently claims to reject his teachings as apostate
I'd like to see proof for that claim.
quote from that world wide resolution: .
that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.
this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.
I don't understand how this monumental hypocrisy didn't destroy the organization when word got out.
If I pointed out the monumental hypocrisy at the heart of Christianity would it destroy your faith Sea Breeze?
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
Mikejw, there is no disaster coming to rural Buckinghamshire that justifies instilling this fear of catastrophe in an old lady.
She's at the point in her life when she just needs to relax, enjoy the grandchildren and great-grandchildren and be taken care of by her husband and family.
Of course she's being manipulated! These insidious tactics are used simply to engender loyalty and dependence on the cult. How can you not see that?
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
Mikejw: every year they have to replace with new supplies
her group overseer and his assistant will look after her if disastrous events happen
she may be asked to take in other JWs displaced by whatever happened
I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic. I find it farcical, tragic and infuriating to think of my old Mum being frightened and manipulated like this.
So much for mainstreaming.
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
Forgive my ignorance (I've been out for almost 25 years) but is this 'go-bag' preparedness a global thing? Is my 80 year old Mother living in the English shires and shopping at Morrisons once a week really being instructed to do this?
https://www.latimes.com/delos/story/2024-04-30/generational-differences-latinos-leaving-religion.
Ugh. Their/they. From one cult to another, some folks never learn.
probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
Scully; I f-ing hate them for ruining family relationships like that
Fucking. The word you really want to type is 'fucking' Scully. I guarantee you'll feel so much better for using it. I'll join you in fact; "I fucking hate that cult for ruining so many family relationships."
Gently purgative? Fuck yeah.
when i was a jw i did and still enjoy visiting old churches and cathedrals because of the history and amazing architecture of these wonderful old buildings.
a sister in my old congregation regaled us with a story of a visit to the tower of london and walking up this crowded narrow staircase only to discover it led to an old chapel.
the way she described her horror at almost entering you would have thought they were doing human sacrifices.
I'm as atheist as it gets but there are a couple of village churches nearby I have visited occasionally - only when there is no service though. They are calm, tranquil and an escape from modernity.
I'll sit for maybe 15 or 20 minutes and then get on with my day. I am undoubtedly misusing the church but I don't mean any disrespect - I'm in the believers space after all.
Nothing will ever bring me back to faith but that doesn't mean I can't see value in these spaces which are still largely insulated from the rude clatter of life.
