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  Now that the Independent article is out...

  by diana netherton in

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  i think it may be a good time to start writing to other publications with some of the outlandish.

  jw doctrines...higher education is one thing that comes to mind.

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  sen·sa·tion·al·ism

  1. subject matter, language, or style producing or designed to produce startling or thrilling impressions or to excite and please vulgar taste. @ cantleave / With all due respect... Maybe I'm missing something... Does pointing out the missed opportunity of the Watchtower to call "mothers and fathers who stroke the genitals of their fretful babies" child abuse, sound like "sensationalism" to you? Or is it this that does: " Watchtower Society, I strongly suggest that if you have friends that practice such criminal behavior, you get some new ones and turn the old ones into the authorities. Oh yeah, I forgot that you have a history of not turning self confessed child molesters into the police, citing clergy privilege. That you’ve paid out millions of dollars in settlements to child abuse victims for the way you’ve handled these kinds of cases. Then as a condition of settlement, you had the victims agree to non-disclosure so they wouldn’t spread the word among the flock."

  To me this is strongly pointing out the facts. How do you know this wasn't written by a person who wasn't molested himself? I believe this statement reflecting the Watchtowers view is a HUGE issue that has gone unnoticed for years. It could very well be the reason many "elders" engaged in this practice. To my knowledge the Catholic Church has never put such foolish statements into writing and THANK GOD, they have a much larger audience. Could you imagine what the world would be like now if the Pope would have said this 50 years ago? There is nothing like the power of suggestion. You may be right. Maybe this article could be written in a better way to present to the public. Could you do that or maybe someone else take a shot at it? I just know if I were still in the twoof I would respond to something like this more than anything else. But that's just me. I think we should hit them with all we got and do it now! Your brother, Greybeard
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  Now that the Independent article is out...

  by diana netherton in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think it may be a good time to start writing to other publications with some of the outlandish.

  jw doctrines...higher education is one thing that comes to mind.

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  Here is a letter I would like to put in the news! If you can, e-mail this to everyone you know. I think this is a VERY powerful letter:

  When first made aware of this quote I didn’t really believe it. I didn’t want to believe it! If it wasn’t brought to my attention by a good friend, I wouldn’t even have bothered to look it up in the Watchtower Library. Because I know this person to be a serious Christian I did look it up, still not believing this quote could ever have been printed in a serious religious journal. Guess what, the quote below was copied right out of the Watchtower Library. Do you think this is the kind of thing that an organization directed by Jehovah’s Holy Spirit would print? Hardly! While they are not condoning in print the practice they mentioned, after such a statement, most Christians likely would feel compelled to launch into a condemnation of such a practice! To call it what it is, CHILD ABUSE! No, not the spirit led organization of God. They just take the tone that it’s probably not a good idea because it could cause your children to be masturbators in the future. This is a sick example of the Watchtower going places that they NEVER should go in the pages of their magazine. Is this organization spirit directed, you decide. I have…..

  *** w73 9/15 p. 568 Breaking Free of Self-Abuse—Why? How? ***

  “Did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers who stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become masturbators later on? Boys and girls may start to play with their private parts during puberty and, not receiving any counsel against this, the first thing they know they are “hooked” on the habit.”

  I have a question for the Watchtower organization. I apologize to all others before I even ask it. Who masturbates their babies to keep them quiet? I mean really, what kind of sick, twisted individual would even conceive of such a thing, print it in the pages of your journal in such a matter of fact tone and then let the opportunity go by without condemning the practice? Watchtower Society, I strongly suggest that if you have friends that practice such criminal behavior, you get some new ones and turn the old ones into the authorities. Oh yeah, I forgot that you have a history of not turning self confessed child molesters into the police, citing clergy privilege. That you’ve paid out millions of dollars in settlements to child abuse victims for the way you’ve handled these kinds of cases. Then as a condition of settlement, you had the victims agree to non-disclosure so they wouldn’t spread the word among the flock.

  Brother’s and sister’s, wake up!
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  2011 Global Survey of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cedars in

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  if you are visiting this site for the first time, or for the first time in a long while, i would appreciate if you could click on the following link and participate in the 2011 global survey of jehovah's witnesses.

  both active jehovah's witnesses and former jehovah's witnesses around the world are invited to participate anonymously, and the results will be forwarded to the governing body and world's media.. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/t7zm5zc.

  this thread will be updated with the results of the survey (for the time being at least) should you be interested.. in its first 3 days, the survey collected close to 400 responses.

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  Brothers and sisters, if you are able, please stand for closing song and prayer... After the song I would like to call on Punkofnice for prayer sense he hasn't a clue what is going on. (can someone please PM Punk)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMS2uMUQNnQ
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  Can you speak in tongues?

  by Greybeard in

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  meo doey oobla qwandabla nowky suuki shamball-la-la qurkyley whadda madda faddda?

  kooly-aidies dwinkala gulp gulp mmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhhh .

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  @ FSP

  LOL, that did sound kinda nasty didn't it... That wasn't on purpose

  It is Pig Latin and you can translate it here: http://piglatin.bavetta.com/index.php

  It gets close but not always 100%

  @ talesin

  Odcay onguestay? Iway evernay avehay iedtray atthay. Evernay

  eardhay ofway itway eforebay. Oundssay ossgray otay emay. Iway

  ovelay otay ogay ishingfay oughthay! Eepday easay ishingfay!

  Looks like I'm down to my last post
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  Can you speak in tongues?

  by Greybeard in

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  meo doey oobla qwandabla nowky suuki shamball-la-la qurkyley whadda madda faddda?

  kooly-aidies dwinkala gulp gulp mmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhhh .

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  @ finallysomepride:

  Iway ishway Iway ouldcay inkdray eerbay! Iway ovelay itway!

  Iway ogay otay aaway ownay. Iway ovelay osethay eoplepay.

  Eythay avehay elpedhay emay alotway!
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  Can you speak in tongues?

  by Greybeard in

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  meo doey oobla qwandabla nowky suuki shamball-la-la qurkyley whadda madda faddda?

  kooly-aidies dwinkala gulp gulp mmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhhh .

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  @ lostandconfused

  Not if their is an interpreter. We need someone to interpret!
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  Can you speak in tongues?

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
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  meo doey oobla qwandabla nowky suuki shamball-la-la qurkyley whadda madda faddda?

  kooly-aidies dwinkala gulp gulp mmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhhh .

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  Meo doey oobla qwandabla nowky suuki shamball-la-la qurkyley whadda madda faddda? Kooly-Aidies dwinkala gulp gulp mmmmmmmm ahhhhhhhhh

  Editway:

  Ethay uetray escriptionday ofway atheistway isway: Eoplepay owhay oday otnay elievebay inway Odgay etyay!
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  If you were the Creator what would you differently?

  by jam in

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  i would appear to mankind periodical, maybe.

  what would this accomplish,.

  there would be no doubt where we came from.. no doubt there would be one religion, no satan.

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  I would make the world religion Atheism and then every few thousand years jump out and go BOOOOO! J/K

  There are men who actually do create little worlds all the time. They are called Video games. The ones that sell the best are the ones full of excitement and chance. They give the player many life's. Could this all be a huge video game that God has created? Speaking about animals, HOW do we know they have not lived before? It sure appears many have as they build homes and care for their young without any training at all. There are many animals that have unbelievable instincts. WHERE did they get it? Maybe this isn't their first life. Who knows, maybe we chose to come here ourselves to be born for the life lessons. I know this sounds crazy to many of you but didn't Christ say, "I have many things to tell you but you can not bear to hear them." What couldn't we not bear to hear? I believe the Bible teaches universal salvation. For a great read on this go here and download the pdf's or watch the videos: http://hopebeyondhell.net/

  I don't know if I believe this or not but these people really seam to be honest IMO. It sure sounds compelling... Whatever the case, something super natural is going on here IMO, I just don't know. What do you think?:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5965wcH2Kx0&feature=player_embedded

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLOvbLMDzPo&feature=player_embedded

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXBxyvlziPg&feature=player_embedded
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  What do you think about Pentecostal People?

  by Iamallcool in

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  Greybeard

  I live close to two neighbors that are Pentecostal. Both families are very nice and friendly. Some of the best neighbors I have ever had. I asked one of them a few Bible questions and just like JW's, he had some tracts to give me. I asked him about their speaking in tongues and if he has done it. He said he has and their is no feeling in the world like it. He said it is a real spiritual supernatural event. I never have seen this until looking at these videos on this thread. I believe something is truly happening from the spirit world. Personally I believe the demons could possibly be messing with them. Obviously I have no proof of that, that is only my best guess. Like JW's, they seam to be a united group of people.

  I wouldn't mind going one of these days to check it out. "Test the inspired expressions".
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  Are YOU a Believer, Atheist, Agnostic, Active JW or WHAT?

  by Greybeard in

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  sorry if this has been asked before but i would love to know the current ratio on this forum.. i'm a believer/christian former jw for 45 years... born in .

  what are you now and what were you?.

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  @ DarioKehi

  I am sorry to hear about all the heart ache and pain you went through all of your life. I am happy to see you are finding your way and the guilt is gone. We all understand the pain of loosing friends and loved ones. I really do admire you for trying to keep your relationship open with your parents and not DAing yourself. I believe DAing yourself is playing right into the GB/Borgs hands. I will never do it. I could see how pretending to be active can kill a person inside. I tried it for a short while than quickly stopped. I figured I was better off being inactive, that way, if I got into trouble, maybe they would ignore me like I have seen them ignore so many others. If you are pretending to be a JW and then you get caught doing whatever... you could be DFed real fast. I am sure you know all of this stuff. I told my family I get severe panic attacks when I go to the Hall and I really do. I can't sit through it anymore. I just want to get up and scream, "Your all a bunch of False Prophets!" I sit there thinking about saying things like that and I feel a real urge to do it, so I got to walk out before I break out in rage. We are not "mentally diseased" we are mentally abused, each and every one of us.

  Best wishes and I hope you find peace in your life soon,

  Greybeard

  Peace out

  and out of posts for now! Hit the limit again darn it!