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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

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  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  Thank you TD, It is very confusing.

  I have a confession, the thing that bothers me the most is something I said to my oldest son who is a elder now and a very good person. I had just purchased some nice recording equipment and I was working on my music. Missing a lot of meetings, rarely going at the time. Drinking to much and partying. I felt so guilty because I still believed it was the "truth" in my heart. I just couldn't live up to it at the time. I just finished going through a divorce and remarriage and all kinds of mixed emotions. I never was a elder or servant, I was the confessionist. I had been through a number of elder meetings but never disfellowshipped just publicly reproved at the time. I couldn't bring myself to go through another elders meeting and it was impossible for me to go and fake it. I told my oldest son who at the time was only about 12 or 13... I told him I was worried about myself and if I ever leave the organization do not follow me, you follow the governing body and obey what they say. If I ever get disfellowshipped do not talk to me. I take the blame for loosing my children, my family and all of it. I should have known better but I did not. Now I wish I would have taught them to question every inspired utterance. So sad but true. I often think of this clip in the movie Young Frankenstein when I recall this event. I am sure he has not forgotten my words...

  This is how stupid I was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nalaY6pczpc
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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  No need to apologize TD and thank you for your replies. Maybe I am confused a bit about this. I thought the teaching was Jesus returned over 100 years ago and appointed the slave over his domestics in 1919. I did not waste my time reading the entire article, just the part where they admit they were not appointed in 1919. Maybe it is in there or maybe I just never got this point.

  I think I am going cross eyed :/

  Time to go get some coffee, thank you all for helping
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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  bohm, Yes, TD is right, so are you.... I just thought maybe there was some kind of a written explanation as to why they keep using this term "faithful and discreet slave." I missed the Watchtower where they admitted they were not appointed in 1919. I would have gone to that meeting and stood up and said, "Right on! I was disfellowshipped for believing this! Can I be forgiven now?"

  Wishful thinking...
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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  Thank you OneEyedJoe and TD.

  When I said, I don't understand this, what am I missing? I was not clear enough. I am asking if I missed another change. My question is in regard to the fact they still keep using the term faithful and discreet slave. I only found out yesterday they finally admitted Jesus did not appoint them in 1919. That was epic to me. It is the main reason I am disfellowshipped. Is there any written explanation as to why they continue to use this term applying it to the governing body? Probably not is my guess. Like you said OneEyedJoe, "It doesn't add up. But it's convenient and most JWs are complacent enough not to question and the ones that aren't are mostly controlled by fear. If not, they end up here."

  I am not confused about how they control people with propaganda, manipulation, guilt and mind control teaching commandments of men. I totally agree with everything you said and realized a long time ago that is the way things are.

  So who really is the faithful and discreet slave? That question is unanswerable now. They let the cat out of the bag.

  Thank you for your replies, it does help
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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

  by Greybeard in

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  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  It does not make any logical sense and I know the governing body doesn't care. Obey every word or be disfellowshipped is their game. But what I don't get it this, how can anyone who knows they finally admitted they were not appointed as the faithful and discrete slave go along with that statement? I thought maybe I missed another change or something because they still are making this assumption.

  Here is what I think they might be planning on doing and I'm sure I'm not the only one. My guess is they will soon announce the great tribulation has started because the courts are questioning the governing body. This is a perfect time for them to proclaim the great tribulation and Jesus appoints the governing body as the faithful and discrete slave again. Hahaha... very funny... but sad... Now they can milk this "tribulation" for years to come. Controlling our families with more fear then ever before.

  News flash governing body, you are a evil slave who beats your fellow slaves, you lifted yourself up over your brothers and disfellowshipped all who did not believe you were divinely appointed by Jesus in 1919. What does your Bible say Jesus will do to the slave that has done what you have? Appoint him to rule the world? This is so laughable its ridiculous! With the judgment you have rendered, you shall be judged. Didn't Jesus say that?
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  I just don't understand this, what am I missing???

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i am watching this video about changes at bethel, the speaker said, "aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary.

  what about this change?

  "finally, we examined why jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" that is from this online watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/ .

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  As I am watching this video about changes at Bethel, the speaker said, "Aren't we glad the faithful and discrete slave continues to make adjustments when necessary."

  What about this change? "Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" That is from this online Watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/

  Did I miss another change in the Watchtower? Who really is the faithful and discrete slave he is talking about now? From the above Watchtower quote. I would think they would have stopped making this statement. What am I missing???
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  If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?

  by Greybeard in

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  if jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?

  i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.

  if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?

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  Thank you Daringhart113,

  Good job! One of the elders who DF'ed me this last time was grossly overweight... I'm guessing he was about 450 pounds. I am sure he had to have his suits custom tailored. I felt sorry for the guy.

  You wrote, "Young people begin to see the hypocrisy at a young age. They wonder "how is this man counseling me when he is doomed to a fireball shower for being ......fat?"

  Good question

  Excellent quote: "Glutton...fails to show love for Jehovah. Is food a big thing in his life? If in the presence of others, does he selfishly ignore their needs and take more than his fair share? Is he grossly overweight but shows no restraint over food, habitually gorging himself? Does he feel uncomfortable, perhaps even getting sick because of eating too much?...he has no place in the Congregation of Gods people...he will not inherit God's kingdom..." -- Watchtower 1974 p.167

  Here is another good quote, "But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken." Matthew 12:36 NIV

  How many empty words were we forced to eat? How many trees cut down to spread empty words? Hows many have died? How many families broken apart? How much heartache?

  John 16:2, "For you will be expelled from the synagogues, and the time is coming when those who kill you will think they are doing a holy service for God." NLT
  
  

  
  
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  If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?

  by Greybeard in

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  if jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?

  i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.

  if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?

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  "Finally, we examined why Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919 but will take place during the great tribulation" That is from this online Watchtower article last paragraph: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130715/jesus-prophecy-last-days/

  
  

  So right now, there is no "Faithful and discreet slave" and my question is, why do they keep bowing down to this Golden Calf? Bow down or be disfellowshipped. Do not question the divine appointment of these men. Believe every inspired utterance inspired or not and keep your mouth shut or your labeled apostate and labeled as wicked and mentally diseased. How many were disfellowshipped for saying, "Jesus’ arrival to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings did not occur in 1919" ???

  
  Remove this Golden Calf and free our families. Aron Class, you built this Golden Calf, you can remove it. One way or another, the walls of the Watchtower are going to come tumbling down for the lies you forced us to EAT with the threat of disfellowshipping.
  

  
  We're getting ready to sing!
  
  
  
  
  
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  If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?

  by Greybeard in

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  if jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?

  i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.

  if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?

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  Be Love Always... Sin is a Game religion uses to control YOU

  
  

  Blasingame Brothers Presents! Real Theocratic Hero’s!

  
  

  Real Theocratic Hero’s!

  
  

  Heres to you brothers of the Governing Body.

  
  

  You qualify as a Golden Calf who’s words fail to come true! You have shut the door to heaven in mens faces traversing land and sea with empty promises.
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  If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?

  by Greybeard in

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  if jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?

  i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.

  if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?

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  Thank you fellow Blues Brother, The force is very powerful with me and my children who are still blinded, they are the original Blasingame Brothers Presents "Real Theocratic Hero's" that thousands of JW's have heard including the Governing Body when my boy Michael was at Bethel. They put him through hell and then asked him to leave. They can't have anyone more popular then they are living at Bethel especially with talent so he had to go. He still believes in them because I taught him too from infancy. I will do all I can to remove this man made Golden Calf who has taken up the seat of Moses and Jesus Christ demanding the be called Rabi as if they were directly appointed my God. Where is the proof of that? Nothing but broken promises and words that do not come true. Isaiah 44:26 Hey! Music is Magic and I anything is possible. Lets remove these guys, kick their butts out of Bethel and let the old ones they are dumping stay! Get it together you Aron Class at Bethel who built the Golden Calf because your savior did not come down the mountain on time! I am telling YOU Aron, destroy this Golden Calf and let the old ones stay at Bethel. Acts 2:17

  May the force be with you too!