Sir82, Yes, you are right, I was the type it bothered too so I know. I felt hypocritical going to Disneyland during Christmas time. The last time I went to Disneyland was about 20 years ago, my brother was a elder and our kids were young. We stayed in the main Disneyland hotel. I go into his room, there is a knock on the door and he tells his children, "Quick, hide in the closet" all because he didn't pay for the kids, only himself and his wife. He tells me, they can sleep on the floor. I was upset with him about that and said this is what your children will remember, you telling them to hide in the closet to save money on your room. Honest in all things my ass. If the Governing Body has stayed at Disneyland Magic Kingdom Hotel then they should be removed for doing something Jehovah God hates. It is no different then condemning prostitution and going on vacation at a whore house to me. Maybe I am missing something. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Greybeard
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If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?
by Greybeard inif jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?
i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.
if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?
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If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom and not be disfellowshipped for it?
by Greybeard inif jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to magic theme parks such as disney land the magic kingdom?
i grew up a jw and we all went to disney land and magic mountain.
if jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden?
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If Jehovah hates magic, why is it ok to go to Magic theme parks such as Disneyland the Magic Kingdom? I grew up a JW and we all went to Disneyland and Magic Mountain. If Jehovah hates magic then why are these places not forbidden? If Jehovah hates magic then every JW that has been to these magic theme parks should be disfellowshipped. That is probably most all of them! If you condemn magic and then go to Disneyland it is no different then condemning prostitution and then going to a whore house for vacation. I would be willing to bet money the Governing Body has stayed in luxurious rooms on vacation or assignment at these Magic theme parks. A place Jehovah hates... Does anybody know if they have?
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Questions for JW's from Christians
by Perry ini'm thinking of printing a tract with some simple but thought-provoking questions for people to use when jw's come to their doors.
questions from christians.
bible-believing christians appreciate the moral values of jehovah’s witnesses in their communities but have several questions that somehow seem to escape us when we are caught unexpectedly at our doors.
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I agree with Crazyguy. your questions are too complex. Keep it sweet short and simple. Say something like, "May your 1914 generation rest in peace and I pray God goes easy on you poor fooled false prophets who traverse land and sea closing the door to heaven in mens faces." and close the door in there face so they can not reply. This is the only way they will think because all of this is a game. They are programed to beat you at this game. They do not care what you say and they will not read what you write. But you say this and close the door in there face, they won't forget your words and they won't stop thinking about it. They are programed to reply, programed to win debates, don't let them.
Thats my 2 cents
My favorite scripture to share with a JW is Isaiah 44:25-26, "I am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers,*
And I am the One who makes diviners act like fools;+The One confounding the wise menAnd turning their knowledge into foolishness;+26 The One making the word of his servant come trueAnd completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers;+ NWTNow tell them to repeat after you 3 times
completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers;
completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers;
completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers;
Whats wrong with this picture? Its 2016, breaker breaker, anybody got a copy? They are under a hypnotic spell. Hard to break
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Something you won't see on JW.org ... They discourage music education
by Greybeard inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4tfrt1nk0&list=plcd6f28c13a0a9ac2&index=4.
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Sorry about my typos, "We're Jehovahs Witnesses" If I recall correctly it was taken out of the song book right? I can't keep up, God doesn't change but this religion is like shifting shadows. James 1:17: "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows." Did they put it back in? I know it was song 62, this youtube video shows it as song number 31 so they must have put it back in. What a mind job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvRLlQh-c_E
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Something you won't see on JW.org ... They discourage music education
by Greybeard inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4tfrt1nk0&list=plcd6f28c13a0a9ac2&index=4.
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I seen it before Pete, recently, if I am not mistaken, I think it was played at the recent convention... Sorry I'm not sure. This post is actually a response to that video after I watched it. Pissed me off too bro. I remember growing up and our big happy song we all would sing together was, "Where Jehovahs Witnesses." Of course we would sing it on the way to the meeting or over and over on a long trip to the convention. At lest we had some fun and joy but what a cult mind bender. "Ours is the God of true prophecy! What he foretells comes to be!" Is there any wonder why they took this hit song out? The "mouthpiece of Jehovah" and "a prophet like Ezekiel" said "The Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 pass away" is a man made lie. What Jehovah Witnesses foretell does NOT come to be! Thats the real history! See Isaiah 44:26 Governing Body. Yes I am talking to you Rabi's who are unquestionable men who claim to be appointed by God.
What we need are some "Real Theocratic Heros" Remember the jingles that went viral among JW's? Thats the power of music. Those are my boys and they are caught in this non-inspired man made mind control group. I taught them like I was taught myself singing, "Were Jehovah's Witnesses" over the mountains and through the woods to paradise we go... You know the story and they are repeating the story. However, I woke up from the dream and they are still singing, "Were Jehovahs Witnesses, what we foretell comes to be." I question my leader, win one appeal, yes I won one for my step son wrongly DFed by a Rabi because he had 4 beers! It was overturned and they disliked me very much to say the least. I start to question more after my mothers death. Now I am cast out as "apostate" and totally cut off from all my family and grand children and I am only 53 years old... Lost it all including a family business I was cut out of.
As many of you know, when you are raised this way, it is not easy to wake up to reality, it is a very strong delusion and a program that runs deep into our very soul. It is who we were. It is like a virus in the back of our heads we constantly fight. This was the "TRUTH" and if you didn't believe it you will be kicked out and die at Armageddon. Fear and guilt are used to control the mind. The fear is of everlasting death if you so much as even question the Devine appointment and direction of the governing body openly. They are totally unquestionable and demand to be called "Rabbi" meaning appointed by God so no questions allowed. The terms Governing Body and Rabi both represent men appointed by God who have unquestionable authority. (Matthew 23:8) Jesus said, "The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses." Has anything changed? They lift themselves up over the "brothers" as Jesus said we all are brothers and demand to be called our teacher because without them we cannot find the truth. The least quoted scripture and greatest warning of all is this one, "1 John 4:1, "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." As a Jehovah Witness you are expected to except every statement, inspired or not, and obey without question as if it were directly from Moses or Jesus. Questioning and testing is called apostasy and if it were allowed, they would stone you to death. As it is, you are cut off from your family that they hold a strong grip on. I will do all I can with my music to bring the Watchtower walls down and free my family. Governing Body, I for one am looking forward to meeting you. Have some questions if you don't mind I want to ask you all face to face. I have absolutely no fear of you Rabi's. Here is who you got to fear, the one you claim to be the "mouthpiece" of... "However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. And in case you should say in your heart: "How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?" when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it." Deuteronomy 18:20-22
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Something you won't see on JW.org ... They discourage music education
by Greybeard inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4tfrt1nk0&list=plcd6f28c13a0a9ac2&index=4.
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Right on Pete! So glad to hear that. It really inspired me too, I am looking for a ukulele now. It is a very happy sounding instrument. Remember when the assemblies had a live orchestra? They took all that away. Why? Maybe Jehovah prefers recordings.
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Something you won't see on JW.org ... They discourage music education
by Greybeard inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz4tfrt1nk0&list=plcd6f28c13a0a9ac2&index=4.
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Is this not a Bible command too or only a suggestion? Psalms 33:32, "Give thanks to Jehovah with the harp; Sing praises to him with a ten-stringed instrument. Sing to him a new song; Play skillfully on the strings, along with shouts of joy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4TfRt1NK0&list=PLCD6F28C13A0A9AC2&index=4
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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You know how animals sometimes will play dead to survive a predators attack? Sometimes you got to do what you got to do to survive. Don't feel bad about the choices you make. It's all a game and most are faking it through life so sometimes you decide to play along until you can make your escape. Maybe you can escape and keep your family, who knows... I know some who have. At least you will have the pleasure of knowing you are awake to curtain truths that others cannot see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0RHSX_9c-U -
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Attention Governing Body, What does nature tell you about a male having long hair?
by Greybeard ini was raised my entire life to believe it is a shame for a man to have long hair because of this bible scripture 1 corinthians 11:14, “does not nature itself teach you that long hair is a dishonor to a man?” nwt however the international standard version reads, “nature itself teaches you neither that it is disgraceful for a man to have long hair.” so what does nature really teach us?
jesus was called, “the lion of judah” and the king of the jungle has long hair.
thank you nature for clearing this twisted scripture up for me.
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It's all about men teaching the commandments of men like at Mark chapter 7. Wash up to your elbows, cut your hair short, obey without question or you are a apostate worthy of death cut off from your family and friends. Kicked out of the synagog like Jesus was... Full control, that is what these men want. None of their predictions have came true. Isaiah 44:26 says God carries out completely the predictions of his own messengers leaving JW's OUT. Heres to you 1914 generation, may you rest in peace. Overlapping generation, what a joke. Their walls will come tumbling down. They are the hypocrites and false prophets who murder their own children thinking they are obeying God. They walk from door to door over weight and full of parasites because Humpty Dumpty trusts the BEAST 666 for their healing medications and they worship money, the image of the BEAST. Why does Jehovah need anything from the BEAST? Jehovah is a controlling jealous God, was Jesus controlling and jealous like Jehovah? Jesus called the God of the Jews a "Man slayer and father of the lie." Could he have been speaking about their God Jehovah? Babel, Babel Babylon, Your words are empty and your generation will soon be gone. Jehovah Witnesses are False Prophets simple as that. Jesus gave plenty of fair warning about false prophets and he said "Do not go after anyone who says the day has drawn near." Welcome to the cosmic joke and the jokes on YOU. -
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Attention Governing Body, What does nature tell you about a male having long hair?
by Greybeard ini was raised my entire life to believe it is a shame for a man to have long hair because of this bible scripture 1 corinthians 11:14, “does not nature itself teach you that long hair is a dishonor to a man?” nwt however the international standard version reads, “nature itself teaches you neither that it is disgraceful for a man to have long hair.” so what does nature really teach us?
jesus was called, “the lion of judah” and the king of the jungle has long hair.
thank you nature for clearing this twisted scripture up for me.
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All of the old articles are full of empty words and predictions. That is why the JW online library only goes back a few years. "But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken." Thank you internet for saving those words. Matthew 12:36 NIV "I am frustrating the signs of the empty talkers, And I am the One who makes diviners act like fools; The One confounding the wise men And turning their knowledge into foolishness; The One making the word of his servant come true And completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers." NWT / Completely fulfilling the predictions of his messengers? What does completely mean? Governing Body your predictions have failed to come true, many empty words, isn't it about time to admit it? Take a vote.