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  Anyone here into "New Age" stuff? I have a question...

  by Greybeard in

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  now that i am free to "rove about" as daniel put it, without the fear of my religion stoning me.

  i rove about all the time studying and looking for truth.

  so today, i come across this guy on youtube, andi have heard many others like him, saying he left the new age stuff because he was mislead and now returning to jesus.

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  This thread is not showing up after I posted it as a recent post. Why is that?
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  Anyone here into "New Age" stuff? I have a question...

  by Greybeard in

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  now that i am free to "rove about" as daniel put it, without the fear of my religion stoning me.

  i rove about all the time studying and looking for truth.

  so today, i come across this guy on youtube, andi have heard many others like him, saying he left the new age stuff because he was mislead and now returning to jesus.

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  Now that I am free to "rove about" as Daniel put it, without the fear of my religion stoning me. I rove about all the time studying and looking for truth. So today, I come across this guy on youtube, andI have heard many others like him, saying he left the New Age stuff because he was mislead and now returning to Jesus. I know many people here do not believe in the spiritual world. I am not looking to prove anything to unbelievers. Seek and you will find is all I have to say about that.

  We know how being raised JW or most any christian religion fills everyone with fear of these things.

  After watching this video, I posted this comment and I would like some feedback from anyone who has had experience with these realms. I will post the video below.

  In the video he said many of these spirits told him he was a god...

  My comment on youtube:

  This guy actually just called Jesus a "demon" because he said if anyone tells you that you are a god, they are a demon. Jesus said, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'? John 10:34, "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' Psalms 82:6 Your mistake is not knowing your own Bible. You thought there was nothing bad in the spiritual realm? The Bible is clear about both good and bad spirits. Just like in this world, you can choose your path. You can be mislead and mislead yourself. I believe it comes down to your intentions. I have never seen spirits or opened my third eye fully because I have my fears too and I am still learning. However, I do know the Bible and your reasoning proves nothing to me. Jesus himself was a man who also called himself, "the son of man" and Jesus faced Satan face to face. If they were healing peoples sickness and walking on water, you can bet the first century "Christians" had their third eye open. The Bible says the ruler of this world, Satan, is the one blinding our eyes. He was not talking about our literal eye balls, he was talking about our spiritual eye. You know how the rulers of this world shut off the third eye. Children are born with it open and then what happens? You said, "Jesus" came in and opened the door to you? How? You give NO details of either your account with Jesus or Satan. No proof at all, just fear. What did Satan say to you? We know what the Bible says he said to Jesus... Did Satan take you to the top of a mountain and offer you all the Kingdoms of the world if you bow down to him like he did Jesus? Can you now do all the things Jesus did and more as he said his followers could? Prove to me you now know Jesus and do what he did, I think we all would love to see it. Sounds to me like you went back to blindness and now you are fulfilled? I was a Jehovah Witness until about 5 years ago I woke up and started questioning everything. Ignorance is bliss and now you feel bliss? If you have any facts about talking with Jesus, I want to know what he told you. I am always searching. I am not trying to insult you, Maybe you were closer to the Kingdom of God then you thought. What were you doing in there? Looking for Jesus or did you just call out his name when you walked into Satan's den? What happened to fear no evil? May you be blessed, PEACE outut

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q5CVF5gcTQ&lc=z13hf1aq1tyvz1foh04cgdy4anf5jlkovdo
  
  
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  Just called into the Kingdom Hall, Speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk... Well I was and what a joke

  by Greybeard in

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  just called into the kingdom hall, speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk now that everyone uses electronic devices and nobody laughed... well i did!.

  he also mentioned when everyone used the bible he could hear the pages flipping and he knew they were following along.

  this was really funny to me.

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  Thanks Muddy Waters. just when I think I'm getting somewhere you got to Muddy the Waters lol.. J/K

  Yes that can keep me going for a while ;)

  Things are not fun right now at this moment in time but now, this moment, way better... you know how life is... no pain no gain they say... I'm surviving and building a space ship to the moon!

  Sorry I do not remember everyone on here. it has been a while but I recall your nick name.
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  Just called into the Kingdom Hall, Speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk... Well I was and what a joke

  by Greybeard in

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  just called into the kingdom hall, speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk now that everyone uses electronic devices and nobody laughed... well i did!.

  he also mentioned when everyone used the bible he could hear the pages flipping and he knew they were following along.

  this was really funny to me.

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  WTWizard said, "before those planets render the dollar toilet paper."

  Before this planet gets any better, I would think fake money would need to go but what do I know? How the planets can do this is beyond me but I still believe anything is possible. Maybe were all living in a huge computer matrix or something... I learn something new everyday. I am a Leo and I know that description fits me well. There are only 12 notes in music, 12 months in a year, 12 apostles, 12, 12, 12... Everything is connected they say. I am still working on the mysteries.
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  Should I stay married to my JW wife

  by gatorguy in

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  me and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.

  i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.

  i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.

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  Nathan Nates said: Gatorguy, you have come to a discussion group to ask STRANGERS about how you should plot the course of your most intimate life.

  In a large way that is true. However, in a large way we are not strangers and can be the most understanding and empathetic people when it comes to this subject.
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  At the assembly as I write

  by wannaexit in

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  it's utterly boring.

  jung from the canadian bethel is drooning on.

  may be the worst assembly ever.

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  It is nice of you to spend time with your family. No matter who we are in this world, sometimes we got to do things with family we don't want to do if we want to keep the peace. Be proud of yourself, thats not easy stuff to take. More power to you. I'm afraid if I went I would come down with turrets syndrome or something. During my final days i remember fighting the urge to blurt something out to the entire congregation. Jesus never spoke of a governing body, that is just another word for leader and we know what he said about that. So you got to sit there as they try to program your thinking with commandments of men. Not a easy thing to do if your awake. It is very abusive.

  They would be the first to disfellowship Jesus.... They already have
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  Just called into the Kingdom Hall, Speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk... Well I was and what a joke

  by Greybeard in

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  just called into the kingdom hall, speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk now that everyone uses electronic devices and nobody laughed... well i did!.

  he also mentioned when everyone used the bible he could hear the pages flipping and he knew they were following along.

  this was really funny to me.

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  how can they tell now if you're paying attention?

  Like the speaker said, he couldn't tell. That means he wasn't confident in his ability or in the message he was giving. He felt less feedback because he couldn't hear the sound of bible pages flip flopping.

  This mans voice had a voice of arrogance and was difficult to listen to. He was boring to listen to and I bet he felt it so he let it be known and blamed it on not hearing the bible pages turn. I was having a hard time listening to him but he sure woke me up when he started preaching about Cannabis saying, "some Jehovah Witnesses are using it now, its a snare, its a snare."

  My guess is someone took him and his wife out for lunch after the meeting and they all had a few beers talking about how the master is delaying. Thats their relief. But Cannabis, Cannabis is a snare. Yeah right, go have another beer. Make it a Bud cuz your Wiser lol ... too much!

  May the force be with you! :)
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  Should I stay married to my JW wife

  by gatorguy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  me and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.

  i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.

  i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.

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  How often do you walk on the beach with your wife? You chose this time to tell her this? I have blown some of the best moments in my life over thinking things. I ruined a trip to Florida with my first wife over thinking everything. Cherish these possible last moments with her, you probably won't be with her long if you don't give her her own time to figure things out. If you really do love her then love her and give her some time. Please forgive me but, It sounds to me like you don't know the meaning of the word and few JW's do. JW's say things that hurt people all the time without empathy. They must tell others what they "believe" when they don't know anything. Thats what you are doing right now. I only wish I could have been more loving. You still have a chance to do that. Be LOVE and LOVE will come back to YOU. You will get what you put out.
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  Just called into the Kingdom Hall, Speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk... Well I was and what a joke

  by Greybeard in

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  just called into the kingdom hall, speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk now that everyone uses electronic devices and nobody laughed... well i did!.

  he also mentioned when everyone used the bible he could hear the pages flipping and he knew they were following along.

  this was really funny to me.

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  Hahaha No kidding Red Pill Twice! Thats funny, yeah, I did need to take the red pill twice after a undercover op to go back and reach my wife who was so sick and on all kinds of medication with all kinds of side effects that the governing body endorse. As long as you have your prescription we cant say anything about it. That is total bull shit as you know. This religion plays both sides and talks out of both sides of its mouth. How many children died who had a prescription for blood? How many died who had a prescription for a kidney? You can break the sabbath to save a sheep but God dam you if you do to save your own child. They make you sacrifice your child to their authority.

  Oh, cannabis is ok now, you got a prescription from "satan's organization" its ok but you can't talk about it, don't tell anyone you use it. We don't talk about our medication here. We don't share our prescriptions from Satan's organization. Hush hush now and keep that to yourself... I had elders offer me prescription drugs when I was drinking beer and shooting pool with them, one who almost disfellowshipped me. Got to love it... You know who you are ;)

  Zappa, Anyone who has used it knows, sure I believe you. A cannabis drink worked wonders for my sick wife too but some JW told her she would be attacked by demons if she used cannabis and she stopped and we soon ended up getting divorced after 21 years... thanks to those who truly obey "Satan's org" when it comes to their health.
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  Just called into the Kingdom Hall, Speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk... Well I was and what a joke

  by Greybeard in

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  just called into the kingdom hall, speaker said he couldn't tell if anyone was listening to his talk now that everyone uses electronic devices and nobody laughed... well i did!.

  he also mentioned when everyone used the bible he could hear the pages flipping and he knew they were following along.

  this was really funny to me.

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  Good point, Miller, I actually decided to call my dad and leave a message on his phone he never answers. I told him , "I called in and heard the speaker giving medical advice in his talk. Mom died of radiation, My x-wife Robin died of prescription drug overdose when her new JW husband tried to get her on cannabis and she wouldn't listen to him. Giving medical advice in the Kingdom Hall is wrong. Thousands of People were put into prison and murdered because of using this plant. They paid a price for your freedom to use it and you speak against it in the Kingdom Hall and drink the chemo." Something like that, not word for word but close enough

  The people who are for this plant have been haunted by JW's for years. JW's will go anywhere to preach their message of doom and destruction. Imagine having a plant that if found, you could go to jail for years, here come the robot JW's knocking. Now, even though we have a right to grow it and have helped given them the right to use it medically... They continue with their powerful black magic words of condemnation. These people are spiritually dead and they shut up the Kingdom of Heaven in mens faces traversing land and sea to do it.

  ScenicViewer I know a dub who actually called Bethel a couple years ago and they said as long as you had a prescription it was ok. So basically, they BOW DOWN to the beast when it comes to a God given plant biblically speaking. Genesis 1:29 Revelation 22:2