darkspilver
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Posts by NikL
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26Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?
by NikL inin the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.
as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.
does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?
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NikL
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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?
by NikL inin the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.
as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.
does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?
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NikL
In the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive...
18 Just as Jehovah progressively revealed truths about the Kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end. As Chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, God’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions. Does that fact mean that they do not have Jehovah’s backing? On the contrary! He supports them. Why? Because those who fear Jehovah have displayed two qualities that he loves—faith and humility. (Heb. 11:6; Jas. 4:6) Jehovah’s servants have faith that all the promises in God’s Word will come true. They show humility when they admit that they misunderstood exactly how those promises would be fulfilled. That humble attitude is reflected in the March 1, 1925, issue of The Watch Tower, which said: “We know that the Lord is his own interpreter, that he will interpret his Word to his people in his own good way and in his own due time.”
19 When the Kingdom was established in 1914, God’s people had only partial knowledge of how prophecies relating to the Kingdom would be carried out. (1 Cor. 13:9, 10, 12) In our zeal to see God’s promises fulfilled, we have on occasion drawn wrong conclusions. Over the years, the wisdom of another statement made in The Watch Tower quoted in the preceding paragraph has become apparent. The article stated: “It seems to be a safe rule to follow, that prophecy can not be understood by us until it is fulfilled or in the course of fulfillment.” Now that we are deep into the time of the end, many Kingdom prophecies have been and are being fulfilled. Because God’s people are humble and willing to be corrected, Jehovah has allowed our understanding of his purpose to become more complete. True knowledge has become abundant!Refinements in Understanding Sift God’s People
20 When Jehovah refines our understanding of truth, our heart condition is tested. Will faith and humility move us to accept the changes? Christians living in the middle of the first century faced such a test. For example, imagine that you were a Jewish Christian living at that time. You deeply respect the Mosaic Law and take pride in your national heritage. Now you receive inspired letters from the apostle Paul stating that the Law is no longer binding and that Jehovah has rejected natural Israel in favor of gathering a spiritual Israel made up of both Jews and Gentiles. (Rom. 10:12; 11:17-24; Gal. 6:15, 16; Col. 2:13, 14) How would you have responded?
21 Humble Christians accepted Paul’s inspired explanation and were blessed by Jehovah. (Acts 13:48) Others resented the refinements and wanted to cling to their own understanding. (Gal. 5:7-12) If they would not change their viewpoint, those individuals would lose the opportunity to be corulers with Christ.—2 Pet. 2:1.
22 In recent decades, Jehovah has refined our understanding of the Kingdom. For example, he has helped us to see more clearly when those who will be subjects of the Kingdom are to be separated from unresponsive ones as sheep are separated from goats. He has also taught us when the full number of the 144,000 will be filled, what the Kingdom illustrations given by Jesus mean, and when the last of the anointed will be raised to heavenly life.* How do you respond to such clarifications? Is your faith strengthened? Do you see them as evidence that Jehovah continues to educate his humble people? The following material in this book will reinforce your conviction that Jehovah is progressively revealing his purpose to those who fear him.
So really prophesy can only interpreted by what has happened? Sort of defeats the purpose of prophesy it seems to me. In fact the whole study seems utterly ridiculous.
Anyway, The reason I ask if you have been to the meeting is I am curious if this study was rushed in your hall?
In ours we had to view the video about building halls in addition to the local needs talk. It was 16 minutes after 8 by the time the study started! The brother did a great job of getting it done in 15 minutes.
I asked a ministerial servant friend what was up with that and he said at the last minute the society told the brothers to show the video.
I got to thinking, was that a way to gloss over this study and give it short shrift because it was so blatant?
So, did anyone else got a non rushed version of this study it was it rushed in your hall too?
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My Thanksgiving Tradition As One of Jehovah's Witnesses
by TMS inthe jw prohibition of celebrating holidays includes the american celebration of thanksgiving, a sort of innocuous harvest festival, where thanks is given for the year's blessings.
a typical family eats a large meal together, including turkey and all the trimmings.
in recent decades, nfl football, always involving the dallas cowboys and detroit lions, has become part of the routine, as well as drinking beer.. every year or so, the "awake!
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NikL
found this in 1976 Awake!
What, then, is the modern-day Christian likely to conclude as he views this national holiday? Looking at many of the present practices, he may be reminded of Second Corinthians 6:14, where we read: “Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have?”
Naturally, many dedicated Christians will not be working secularly on that day. Some may choose to take advantage of this opportunity to enjoy fellowship with family and friends. Yet, what “spirit” will a Christian manifest? It is true that God created turkeys and other foods, so these are not in themselves objectionable. But undoubtedly one who is a true Christian will want to be careful not to stumble others.
Consider what the apostle Paul says, as recorded in First Corinthians, chapter ten. He reasons that Christians should wisely avoid eating before others a perfectly acceptable food if doing so would stumble them. ‘Respect your brother’s conscience’ is the message.
So on November 25, the declared “day of thanks” in 1976, personal decisions need to be made. Dedicated Christians certainly will not want to convey to others the idea that they believe in one-day-a-year gratitude. Really, should not all who profess Christianity encourage a spontaneous spirit of thanksgiving—from the heart—the year around? -
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My Thanksgiving Tradition As One of Jehovah's Witnesses
by TMS inthe jw prohibition of celebrating holidays includes the american celebration of thanksgiving, a sort of innocuous harvest festival, where thanks is given for the year's blessings.
a typical family eats a large meal together, including turkey and all the trimmings.
in recent decades, nfl football, always involving the dallas cowboys and detroit lions, has become part of the routine, as well as drinking beer.. every year or so, the "awake!
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NikL
My wife and I just got invited over for a turkey dinner with stuffing etc on Thursday the 24th by current active witnesses. They wanted to have a group over for dinner. LOL
We are of course going. looking forward to some enjoyable association with our friends.
I told my wife they better keep it on the down-low though. I am SURE there are some in our hall that would NOT approve.
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the privilege of associating with fellow Christians in worship is not open to everyone?
by NikL inwas going through the book that is currently being studied at midweek meetings.. paragraph 18 of chapter 11 reads.... a second area of moral refinement involves themeasures taken to keep the congregation clean.
sad-ly, not all who accept jehovah’s standards of conductand dedicate themselves to god loyally stick withtheir decision.
some eventually have a change ofheart and willfully rebel against those standards.what is to be done about such ones?
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NikL
Was going through the book that is currently being studied at midweek meetings.
Paragraph 18 of chapter 11 reads...
A second area of moral refinement involves the
measures taken to keep the congregation clean. Sad-
ly, not all who accept Jehovah’s standards of conduct
and dedicate themselves to God loyally stick with
their decision. Some eventually have a change of
heart and willfully rebel against those standards.
What is to be done about such ones? We may find
one indication in Ezekiel’s vision of the spiritual
temple discussed at the outset of this chapter. Re-
member those lofty gates. Within each entryway,
there were guard chambers. Guards would protect
the temple, evidently to prevent those who were “un-
circumcised in heart” from entering. (Ezek. 44:9)
That is a clear reminder that pure worship is a priv-
ilege accorded only to those who endeavor to live by
Jehovah’s pure standards of conduct. In a similar
way, the privilege of associating with fellow Chris-
tians in worship is not open to everyone todayWTF?!
Is that even close to anything Christ said?
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What were the old baptism questions?
by NikL ini was baptized in 1981 and i think the questions i was asked at the time are different from the ones they use now.. also, if they are different, when was the change made?.
thanks.
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NikL
Interesting.
I found this post...
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/58053/baptism-1973-1985-questions-hmmmmmmmmmm
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What were the old baptism questions?
by NikL ini was baptized in 1981 and i think the questions i was asked at the time are different from the ones they use now.. also, if they are different, when was the change made?.
thanks.
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NikL
I meant the formal questions. Thanks blondie.
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What were the old baptism questions?
by NikL ini was baptized in 1981 and i think the questions i was asked at the time are different from the ones they use now.. also, if they are different, when was the change made?.
thanks.
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NikL
Never mind! I found the answer with a little searching on this site.
Now if I can find a way to delete this post
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What were the old baptism questions?
by NikL ini was baptized in 1981 and i think the questions i was asked at the time are different from the ones they use now.. also, if they are different, when was the change made?.
thanks.
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NikL
I was baptized in 1981 and I think the questions I was asked at the time are different from the ones they use now.
Also, if they are different, when was the change made?
Thanks
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November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning
by bohm innovember broadcast is up:.
https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.
we learn interesting things.
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NikL
The point that stuck with me is where Losch says "are we arrogant to say we are the only ones with the truth? Not at all!"
Contrast that to what Jackson says to Royal commission "it would be presumptuous to say that we were the only ones"
ar·ro·ganthaving or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilitiespre·sump·tion
behavior perceived as arrogant, disrespectful, and transgressing the limits of what is permitted or appropriate.Kinda seems like the same thing to me.