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New Resolution?

by NikL in

jw
friends

had our midweek meeting last night.

they had a resolution to send an extra (i wanna say $1100 but i only remember it was at least $1000) per month to forward the kingdom preaching work etc.. you know how they work in the kh...no one votes against anything.

i abstained as i almost have always done.

NikL

I had a chat with a MS friend of mine about it. Was interesting.

First of all I need to correct the amount. It was $500 NOT the larger amount i said at the start. Not sure where i got that. Sorry for the misinformation.

Anyway, this MS friend said (he would know as he did the finances for our hall for a while) the branch comes of with an arbitrary amount based on the number of publishers. This includes children who are publishers...meaning no income at all. He is rather disgruntled about the whole thing and said he was going to vote against it but was indisposed at the moment.

I said "why would you bother? it's a done deal the minute a motion is put forth".

He said "it's a principle he feels strongly about". He said, "they should base their expected donation on working adults and not pensioners and kids".

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WTBTS' corrupt translation - to elevate elders!

by The Searcher in

the wt march 2017, p.11, par.

13 quotes ephesians 4:8 as saying, "the bible refers to them as 'gifts in men.

however, the org's own kingdom interlinear translation (and every other bible translation) gives a truthful translation of the verse: .

NikL

Searcher, you rock!

I love your posts and scriptures.

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JWs kinda admit to not being Christian

by NikL in

during the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "gods organization" ©.

a paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this.... 9 first, jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of god’s name.

faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible’s main teaching.

NikL

Crazyguy an hour ago

It's articles like this that really make me start to believe that the members at the top the real power behind the Borg are masons!

Oh no not the Masons again! LOL

Seriously, I've been taken to task in the past for suggesting a Mason connection with the JWs.

Some people got really nasty about it too. Which I've never understood.

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Sanctimonious, "WE'RE Thankful EVERY day."

by stillin in

thanksgiving is really just a nice, traditional, family-oriented day set aside on a national level.

no babylon the great.

give me a break with the holier than thou, "we don't celebrate thanksgiving.

NikL

My JW wife and I are going to a dinner party this (Thursday) evening at some JW friends.

She is cooking up a feast of turkey and ham, and like most JW families we will surely have a prayer of thanksgiving before the meal.

When we were invited I thought HUH? And I was like OKAY!

I am curious to see if there will be any fallout from this.

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JWs kinda admit to not being Christian

by NikL in

during the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "gods organization" ©.

a paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this.... 9 first, jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of god’s name.

faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible’s main teaching.

NikL

OUTLAW 12 hours ago

JWs kinda admit to not being Christian..
No..Not even close..
JW`s think they are the "ONLY CHRISTIANS".....Period..

True they DO say that Outlaw. On the one hand they claim to be Christian BUT they also downplay Christ it seems to me.

1 John 2:22 says...22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ?+ This is the antichrist,+ the one who denies the Father and the Son. (NWT)

Now they obviously don't out and out deny, but they are putting Jesus, as someone said earlier in this thread, "in the corner".

BTW, AWESOME list of scriptures The Searcher! I am going to save the whole bunch for future reference.

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JWs kinda admit to not being Christian

by NikL in

during the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "gods organization" ©.

a paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this.... 9 first, jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of god’s name.

faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible’s main teaching.

NikL

Well no, not really. It's just your definition of 'christian' that they don't meet.

Fair enough nic.

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JWs kinda admit to not being Christian

by NikL in

during the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "gods organization" ©.

a paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this.... 9 first, jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of god’s name.

faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible’s main teaching.

NikL

During the book study which is basically a book all about the history of "Gods Organization" ©

A paragraph that hit me like a ton of the proverbial bricks was this...

9 First, Jehovah’s servants came to have the proper view of the importance of God’s name. Faithful early Bible Students viewed the ransom arrangement as the Bible’s main teaching. That explains why the Watch Tower often focused on Jesus. For example, in its first year of publication, the magazine mentioned the name Jesus ten times more than the name Jehovah. Regarding the Bible Students’ early years, The Watchtower of March 15, 1976, noted that they gave “overbalanced importance” to Jesus. In time, though, Jehovah helped them to discern the prominence that the Bible gives to God’s personal name. How did that affect the Bible Students? Especially from 1919 onward, says the same Watchtower article, “they began showing more appreciation for Messiah’s heavenly Father, Jehovah.” In fact, during the decade following 1919, The Watch Tower mentioned God’s name over 6,500 times!

10 By giving the name Jehovah proper recognition, our brothers showed their love for God’s name. Like Moses of old, they set out to “declare the name of Jehovah.” (Deut. 32:3; Ps. 34:3) In turn, as promised in the Scriptures, Jehovah took note of their love for his name and showed them favor.—Ps. 119:132; Heb. 6:10.

Even though I was a witness for years I thought "the ransom arrangement" WAS the Bible’s main teaching. I guess I was a lousy student.

To downplay his sacrifice and ransom is kinda like denying Jesus IMHO.

What say you?

What thinks you?

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New Resolution?

by NikL in

jw
friends

had our midweek meeting last night.

they had a resolution to send an extra (i wanna say $1100 but i only remember it was at least $1000) per month to forward the kingdom preaching work etc.. you know how they work in the kh...no one votes against anything.

i abstained as i almost have always done.

NikL

Had our midweek meeting last night.

They had a resolution to send an extra (I wanna say $1100 but I only remember it was at least $1000) per month to forward the kingdom preaching work etc.

You know how they work in the KH...no one votes against anything. I abstained as I almost have ALWAYS done. I find the thing a farce.

Anyway, after the resolution went forth the brother explained this was just an adjustment to the resolution from last year and the increase suggested by the branch.

WTF? Do they now tell the local halls how much they are expected to contribute? What happens if that amount is not sent one month, are they then in the red?

Anybody else know about this?

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Jehovahs Witnesses and Marijuana

by NikL in

jw
friends

i live in california where pot just became legal for recreational use very similar to alcohol.

my wife who is a very active jw has had her medical card for cannabis for a couple of years now.

and i know several in our congregations around our area who are using it medically.

NikL

Question: Would a JW have to take cannabis in a form other than smoking it? I just can't envision Sister NikL and other JWs with a joint in hand . . .

My understanding is that smoking it is frowned upon and results in one not being eligible for privileges. OH no!

My wife has discovered that smoking is way more effective than the vape which she was using.

Funny story, last night our grown son visited with his girlfriend. (He works at a cannabis dispensary so he has access to the good stuff...plus he is a full blown pothead. Good kid though and more proof to me that the stigma over pot is ridiculous.)

Anyway, they rolled a blunt (which is a joint but instead of paper they use a tobacco leaf)

My faithful JW wife partook with them LOL Funny to see. I mentioned after the fact she could get into hot water for the tobacco part but assured her her secret was safe with me. It was kind of a surrealistic moment.

We had a laugh about it.

Richard_I an hour ago
I'm expecting the org to still say its prohibited, akin to tobacco use due to the perceived damage it could do to the body,

We had a local needs talk about it a couple years ago and they said it was a matter of conscience at least as far as the medical goes. Thing is I may decide I need to fire up the bong so I can get a good night sleep. The fact I get high too is just a side effect. It's still medical.

Also, in Cali at least, they were pretty much giving a "green card" to anyone who said they needed one...

Uh I have a hangnail...can I get some pot?

Why certainly! Marijuana is the best medicine for hangnails! Here you go.

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The true sign of a Cult-Like group is:

by stuckinarut2 in

just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.

feel free to add to the list:.

the true sign of a cult-like group is:.

NikL

You are only safe on the inside. It's a big scary dangerous world outside.

NikL

Posts by NikL

Crazyguy an hour ago

OUTLAW 12 hours ago

Well no, not really. It's just your definition of 'christian' that they don't meet.

Richard_I an hour ago