What comfort is that Fred? That they are all dead meat if they don't join the WT society? That this destruction is nothing compared to what will come when Jehovah gets fed up with it all and destroys everyone not a JW?
Thanks, but with comfort like that give me a bed of nails and a pillow of scorpions.
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by NikL inthe dubs are riding high after the tragedy on the 11th.
men really need to hear this and said "go back to the national guard and.
as they shared the scriptures and told the brothers that there was a. place.
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Cofmorting those at ground zero. (GAG)
by NikL inthe dubs are riding high after the tragedy on the 11th.
men really need to hear this and said "go back to the national guard and.
as they shared the scriptures and told the brothers that there was a. place.
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The dubs are riding high after the tragedy on the 11th. They are taking every advantage to get to people to convert...er I mean help them in their time of need.
Take the following letter as an example of how excited they are over thw whole thing...Experience: Giving comfort to those at Ground Zero
Shared by: Daniel Osborn [email protected]Hi Everyone,
We were very happy to hear the news this morning that elders have been
assigned to bring comfort to people in different areas of Manhattan such
as
Jacob Javits Center, hospitals and Ground Zero. This was an experience
shared from a sister I work with in Graphics. Seven elders selected from
her
circuit in Brooklyn are assigned to Ground Zero. An elder from her
congregation gave a report of their experiences. He and another elder
paired
up to work together and were a little apprehensive, not knowing what to
expect. As soon as they started talking though, all apprehension went
away,
the brother said; "it just seemed natural to truly get to comfort these
men." Just shows how Jehovah's spirit can help us at the right time. They
started on the perimeters and went up to two policemen and showed them
scriptures of
comfort and talked about the new system. They mentioned that they would
like
to get in closer to Ground Zero. The policemen hugged them, thanked them
for
coming by and said how much the men closer in would need to hear this.
They
kept going closer in and were able to talk to different policemen and
firemen they met. At the next perimeter was the National Guard who said
they
needed special permission to go any further. They directed them to the
Marines office to get permission. When they went in the office, the
brother
said it was the biggest Marine you have ever seen, very intimidating.
They
didn't ask for permission, just started witnessing to him; tears came in
his
eyes. He was unbelievably kind and happy to hear the good news. He said
the
men really need to hear this and said "Go back to the National Guard and
tell them you have permission to enter". The brothers went back but the
National Guard said they needed something in writing. At the same time a
group of clergymen arrived (they had previous authorization to go in). So
the brothers returned to the Marine who wrote a letter stating they could
go
anywhere they wanted to, then stamped it to make it official. The
brothers
returned to the National Guard. At that time the clergymen were already
back; they had not brought any comfort to anyone, they were only there to
take a TOUR! The clergy asked the brothers what
scriptures they planned on using, etc. The brothers asked them what they
were sharing and they said "Bottled Water". Then the National Guard told
the
brothers even though they had authorization, no one else could go in that
day. So the next morning, bright and early, the brothers arrive. The
National Guard told them that they were not letting any clergy in that
day.
The brothers showed them their letter and they said, "oh, you can go
anywhere you want." The brothers said it is 100 times worse than anything
you see on TV! The destruction, etc. worse than a war zone. Rescue
workers
looking like zombies working. They talked with a group of steelworkers
(all
big men that would usually intimidate you) The men had tears in their
eyes
as they shared the scriptures and told the brothers that there was a
place
where they really needed to go. It was a boat set up at the Marina for
rescue workers that were just burned out. The Red Cross was providing
meals
there. They found it and said it would just make you cry to see the
people.
Men looking so lost, with their heads down, just not able to cope with
all
that they are seeing. They just sat down with them and talked, sharing
scriptures. They said there was not a dry eye in the place. The men
thanked
them so much for coming, saying they REALLY needed this. The brothers
spent
a few hours with them. They also met a man who drives a little cart that
is
taking bodies and body parts to the morgue. He was just leaned over his
steering wheel. They asked if he was ok and he just started crying, they
hugged him and he cried unbelievably for about 10 minutes. After he
pulled
himself together, they shared some scriptures with him. He told them how
much he appreciated it and how much people need to hear this.So sure there will be even more good experiences with all the efforts of
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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS
by MacHislopp infollowing the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
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Msil,
I could not agree more with your viewpoint. I say let the WT ramain and not kicked out. I can then point out that fact to as many people as I can.
Best to all!
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Why are JWs scared of death?
by NikL ini have been thinking a lot lately about death.
this is not surprising considering the turn of events on the 11th.. i have been re-awakened to the transient nature of human life and how it can go in the blink of an eye.
as the bible says life is vanity and a striving for the wind.. with all of the talk about world war 3 and how dangerous this world has become, i have been on a bit of an emotional roller coaster this past week.. the fear of dying is a normal and basic emotion.
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All of this talk of propiganda!
I just made a post asking for thoughts on a phenomenon I have noticed. I have no "hidden agenda". I do not hate witnesses. My wife is a witness and I love her very much. I was a witness for a good many years myself so I have had time to observe how many witnesses react to death and the thought of dying. I wanted to know if others made the same observation and if they had any thoughts on the topic.I for one am at a loss as to why the fear should be though I am forming a clearer picture from all of the posts and have been given some fine food for thought.
So if we can forget about the whole propiganda issue and get back to the topic at hand. I for one would be grateful. Thanks :-) -
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Why are JWs scared of death?
by NikL ini have been thinking a lot lately about death.
this is not surprising considering the turn of events on the 11th.. i have been re-awakened to the transient nature of human life and how it can go in the blink of an eye.
as the bible says life is vanity and a striving for the wind.. with all of the talk about world war 3 and how dangerous this world has become, i have been on a bit of an emotional roller coaster this past week.. the fear of dying is a normal and basic emotion.
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I have been thinking a lot lately about death. This is not surprising considering the turn of events on the 11th.
I have been re-awakened to the transient nature of human life and how it can go in the blink of an eye. As the bible says life is vanity and a striving for the wind.
With all of the talk about world war 3 and how dangerous this world has become, I have been on a bit of an emotional roller coaster this past week.
The fear of dying is a normal and basic emotion. I suppose that if we didn't have it we would have died out as a species long ago. That being said however, we all will die in time either from old age, illness or some other unforseen event.
Most people accept this fact, but not so the witnesses. I mean they give lip service to the concept of the dying of all sinful flesh but there is a part of them that wants to live into the new system and never die at all. They seem to be more afraid of death then most other religous people I have met. Why are they so scared? They don't believe in hell or eternal damnation. They believe that in death you are in a deep dreamless sleep. What's so bad about that? Are they manipulated to feel this way from the teachings of the society?
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Missing & dead JWs
by NikL ininfo from an e mail circulating among dubs from someone perporting to be at bethel.. it may have already been posted but just in case.... .
confirmed that one sister died in the disaster; 13 witnesses unaccounted.
for at last report.
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Info from an e mail circulating among dubs from someone perporting to be at Bethel.
It may have already been posted but just in case...Confirmed that one sister died in the disaster; 13 Witnesses unaccounted
for at last report. The GB called all traveling overseers in the NY and NJ
in for a meeting this morning in the 107 KH, to consider how best to offer c
omfort and aid to those affected, etc. Many of the brothers from the Service
Dept. in Patterson were here too. The dining room at Towers was a real bee-
hive. Some Bethelites have been able to give food & other assistance to
some of the casualties. We responded to a call from the Fire Dept. for he
lp with equipment for cutting steel, etc., needed in the rescue operation.
NOTE: I just received word that one of our brothers was on one of the ai
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Enough Rhetoric, Time to Act
by mikepence inlet's use this thread to see who really is putting their money where their mouth is.. list here what actions you have taken, or are planning to take, to help those in need in new york and washington d.c. this could be in the form of money, blood, volunteering, etc.
this is not about tooting one's own horn, it is about showing that the ex-jw community cares.
also indicate in your message if you are ex-jw or current jw.. i will start:.
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In the spirit of the scripture about "not leting the right jhand know what the left is doing" I am not going to share that information with you or anyone.
This is what makes me absolutely sick. Everyone being so pius and so holy now that we have had some whack jobs kill a bunch of people.
There are advertisers saying come tto our place of byusiness and we will donate. There are airlines, Amtrack and others that seem to feel it is insensitive to continue anvertising travel. I got flack from a listener for playing a song on the radio called "Learning to fly" by Pink floyd. Sheesh
I am going back to living my life as normal as possible and I would urge everyone here to do the same. To do anything else is to let the a holes that caused the death and destruction win.
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Meeting After Meeting?
by NikL ini went to the meeting today with the wife.
same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.
anyone have any idea what was going on?
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Meeting After Meeting?
by NikL ini went to the meeting today with the wife.
same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.
anyone have any idea what was going on?
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Sorry Mox,
Didn't mean to contribute to all the hysteria about the "special" meeting.
I have not been to the meeting for a while and I never remembered the attendants getting asked to meet ofter the meeting on a Sunday, especially from the platform. Usually they do this sort of thing after the service meeting.
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Meeting After Meeting?
by NikL ini went to the meeting today with the wife.
same boring talk and coma inducing wt study but.... after the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting.
anyone have any idea what was going on?
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I went to the meeting today with the wife. Same boring talk and coma inducing wt study BUT...
After the meeting they called all of the attendants to the back room for a little private meeting. Anyone have any idea what was going on? Does this have to do with the special meeting coming up in October that we keep hearing about on this board?
Enquireing minds want to know.