Posts by NikL

The observance consists of a talk followed by a passing of the bread and wine. Only those that are "going to heaven" are supposed to partake. The rest just observe.

The problem I have ...among a ton of others, is that I can't find any scripture that says ONLY 144,000 are supposed to partake.

If it's NOT in the bible and people pass on the emblems, are they symbolicly rejecting Jesus sacrifice?

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Have you ever "partaken" at the memorial

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it's that time of year again.. trying to decide if i should or shouldn't.

:-).

NikL

It's that time of year again.

Trying to decide if I should or shouldn't. :-)

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Today's text caused a fight between myself and my "Still In" wife.

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she insisted on reading it to me and i just couldn't keep my freaking mouth shut.. see if you can tell why.... sunday, february 18.

they would go where the spirit inclined them to go.—ezek.

jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only channel for dispensing spiritual food.

NikL

She insisted on reading it to me and I just couldn't keep my freaking mouth shut.

See if you can tell why...

Sunday, February 18

They would go where the spirit inclined them to go.—Ezek. 1:20.

Jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only channel for dispensing spiritual food. (Matt. 24:45-47) Since 1919, the glorified Jesus Christ has been using that slave to help his followers understand God’s own Book and heed its directives. By obeying the instructions found in the Bible, we promote cleanness, peace, and unity in the congregation. Each one of us does well to ask himself, ‘Am I loyal to the channel that Jesus is using today?’ Jehovah’s written Word acquaints us with the heavenly part of his organization. For example, the prophet Ezekiel received a vision in which the heavenly part of God’s organization is represented by a celestial chariot. (Ezek. 1:4-28) With Christ and the holy angels about to destroy this wicked world, Jehovah’s chariot is rapidly moving toward the vindication of his sovereignty and the sanctification of his holy name! w16.11 3:9, 10

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Does anyone have the outline for the upcoming special talk?

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i would like to look it over.

NikL

Perhaps the outline is out there and was published for congs that for some reason cant tie in to the mothership.

That is my understanding. Hoping to check it out

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Does anyone have the outline for the upcoming special talk?

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i would like to look it over.

NikL

I would like to look it over

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New Movie, "Confessions of A Teenage jesus Jerk"

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stumbled apon this.. apologies if this has already been posted.. here is a link to the trailer.... https://vimeo.com/215891572.

here is one description of the plot.... certain right wing scolds love to claim that modern life would be so much better if organized religion was allowed to exert a greater presence.

“confessions of a teenage jesus jerk” shows in one very tragicomic story how such everyday religious incursion would be a curse.. actor eric stoltz makes his directorial debut adapting san francisco author tony dushane’s semi-autobiographical novel of the same name.

NikL

Stumbled apon this.

Apologies if this has already been posted.

Here is a link to the trailer...

https://vimeo.com/215891572

Here is one description of the plot...

Certain right wing scolds love to claim that modern life would be so much better if organized religion was allowed to exert a greater presence. “Confessions of A Teenage Jesus Jerk” shows in one very tragicomic story how such everyday religious incursion would be a curse.

Actor Eric Stoltz makes his directorial debut adapting San Francisco author Tony Dushane’s semi-autobiographical novel of the same name. Its setting is the Reagan era San Francisco Bay Area. High schooler Gabe, the Dushane stand-in, is a teenage Jehovah’s Witness. His father happens to be one of the local congregation’s Elders. However, thriving in his religious Fellowship proves less important to Gabe than his growing curiosity regarding masturbation and other sexual matters. Of particular importance is his unrequited crush on fellow teen Witness Jasmine.

It’s said a system’s strength can be found in how it handles breakdowns in its operations. In Gabe’s case, the religion he was steeped in proves particularly inadequate in explaining or de-mystifying the contradictions of sexual desire. One memorably ludicrous moment sees Gabe’s father counseling a husband greatly concerned about having committed sodomy with his wife. But things prove far less funny for Gabe when he becomes a scapegoat for female Witnesses’ embarrassment over experiencing awakened sexual desires.

Gabe’s story follows his gradual re-assessment of his treating his religious fervor as integral to his personal identity. Free-spirited cousin Karen shepherds his sexual awakening as well as his introduction to the then-burgeoning City punk scene. After Gabe gets temporarily expelled from the congregation, the expulsion may have been aimed at crushing his spirit and increase his craving to not make waves in the future. But getting exposed to the poetry of Kerouac shows the teen that spiritual awakening is not the private preserve of the Witnesses.

Seeing the word “Masturbation” in flashing neon above an Elder’s head doesn’t mean the film rejects the religious urge. Religion is just one way of making the universe understandable to people. But Stoltz’ film has little love for religious desire being twisted into a means of controlling others’ behavior.

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Another congregation bites the dust

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went to the meeting last night with my believing wife.

the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.

basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.

NikL

so--really all thats happened is 3 sets of meetings each week instead of 4. same number of bums on seats each week.

Okay if you want to be Debbie Downer about it I guess

The way I look at it is that there was ONCE enough publishers to support 4 congregations. Now there is not.

They are leaving and I down see it improving for WT anytime soon.

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Another congregation bites the dust

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went to the meeting last night with my believing wife.

the co was visiting and delivered a really cult-ish talk on loyalty but that's another story.. they made the announcement that starting january 1st they were going to have only 3 congregations in this town instead of 4.. they are dissolving one and growing the territories of the remaining 3. the reason given is that many of the elders are getting up there in age and can't do what they used to do.

basically not enough elders and ministerial servants...or even men reaching out for that matter.

NikL

freddoo

Fantastic news! Remind me ... what part of the world is this?

This is California, northern California to be exact.

stan livedeath

so--if the watchtower is dissolving one congregation out of 4 in that town--will we see another property up for sale ?

Nope. 4 Congregations share one of those 2 KH complexes they were building all over the place 10-15 years ago.