If you're in your 20's and an elders daughter who is 25 gets into a "relationship" with you, you get publicly marked in multiple congratulations.
1995 or so
for a while there was this arrangement, based on 2thess:3:14, wherby a talk was given on the service meeting describing a dangerous influence in the congregation, and reference was made to that scripture, thereby indicating to the congregation that this threat exists here, and that you should distance yourselves from anybody fitting that description.
frankly, it bothered me because even if somebody didn't know who was really being referred to, they felt like they might, so the congregation formed little fractures of suspicion.
i wrote to the society because of this divisive effect (that i'm sure wasn't the intended effect; creating a phantom "marked man," breaking up the unity in the cong...etc.).
If you're in your 20's and an elders daughter who is 25 gets into a "relationship" with you, you get publicly marked in multiple congratulations.
1995 or so
it is based on gorbatsjov's good topic, but we all must have had nice, pleasant, romantic moments in our congregations.. i was always a dedicated boy, baptized at 14. we had our bookstudy at 8:00 pm and before that our fieldservice at 7:00 pm .
most of times, as a 14-16 years old boy i was the only one there with our conductor.
he was from aruba, immigrated to our cold and wet european country.
No. None.
do you think the watchtower will sell off any more kingdom hall after the 3,000 have been sold of and why do you think that.
Is there a list somewhere of all the halls for sale?
i spent a considerable length of time living and working in america (would love to imigrate one day).. almost everyone i worked with and made friends with carried a concealed firearm of somesort.
i found this pretty interesting and as an avid firearm fan even more so.. so to our american members here... .
as a jw did you or did you know any practising dubs who carried or if not had firearms for home defence?
Owned it for over a year before finally have the time to get to the range and shoot it. Really can't decide which were more fun, the 410 or the 45's. Burnt through a bunch of both that day!
i spent a considerable length of time living and working in america (would love to imigrate one day).. almost everyone i worked with and made friends with carried a concealed firearm of somesort.
i found this pretty interesting and as an avid firearm fan even more so.. so to our american members here... .
as a jw did you or did you know any practising dubs who carried or if not had firearms for home defence?
I had a concealed carry permit for much of my adult JW life. During non jw stuff I almost always had something on me. Never had it in the car when meeting for field service -law where I am says if stopped by police the first thing you have to say is I have a permit and a weapon. Never wanted to say that with a bunch of Uber jws in the car as most every car I've ever owned had windows tinted too dark and I could be stopped at any time.
My guns were highly frowned upon in the KH, I was spoken to multiple times and questioned about my reasons for owning. My answer was always 'i enjoy target practice'. None of their damn business if I and why I sleep with a Taurus Judge next to my pillow or not.
Now that I'm out of the JW world I carry absolutely everywhere I legally can.
jehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.
the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.
being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.
I know a brother in my old hall - started working at the same place I was working at as a 2nd job. (my 2nd job, extra income - his only job). Lost his house because he would turn down the work, it was a lot of last minute on call work. They'd call and say can you work tomorrow.
He started renting a cheaper place, kept turning down work, couldn't pay the bills. All the while I'm getting 30 + hours a week out of the same company in addition to my full time job and still making meetings and FS. His excuse was 'when they call, I can't just be ready to go, I got things to do". WTF you don't have a job at all, when they call?!?! bs! You should be waiting in their office so they don't have to call.
A few weeks later the elders are meeting everyone at the door at meetings explaining there is a 'family in need' and a special box in the back room to donate to help them.
What does the brother do when he gets his donated help monies?
Can't make this stuff up. He says, 'well, I haven't been on a vacation on a while, so I'm taking a 4 day weekend and going out of town. I deserve a vacation'
Not only that he told the elders in the requests for help meeting that the only way anyone could make any money at that job was lying, cheating, and stealing. So, yup elders pull me aside to talk about my choice of jobs. Told them the reason I could earn a living and he couldn't was because I actually work and want to work and walked off
i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
First time I googled JW when I was pimi it took me here. Didn't come back until one day as work was starting at the new headquarters an elder who know I was handy online asked me during the meeting where the property was located. He had a part on the 2nd half and wanted to talk about it. Googled it and it brought me here. Spent a good art of that meeting reading this forum
my wife and me have a booth at the local framers market.
there is usually about 12 t0 14 vendors each week on a small short street in town.
what is funny on each end of this short street are cart setups with 3 people on each cart.
Do they even go door to door anymore?
Work schedule has had me home most Saturdays for the last couple years. I've seen noone. Not even a tract or old mag in my door.
Not that it matters much, first time they do come I'll add myself to the do not call list
i haven't been to a kh in decades, so i get the google alerts for jws and i got one featuring a local news channel in brooklyn covering the assembly being held in flatbush, brooklyn.
i'm sure that venue is where the circuit assemblies are usually held, keeping in mind it's summer and that's when the district assemblies are being held.
why are they acting like they're so strapped for cash and now holding district assemblies in circuit assemblies locations ?.
They have never used the Holt MI assembly hall for DC's. In the 80s to 1996 DCs were in South Bend IN, Toledo and Pontiac. After 1996 the state went to Pontiac, Toledo and Cicero. After Pontiac stopped used, it was Saginaw, Belleville, Toledo.
You forgot tiger stadium in the early 70's
Must have been the annual meeting I remember? When the new Bible was handed out at Holt
i haven't been to a kh in decades, so i get the google alerts for jws and i got one featuring a local news channel in brooklyn covering the assembly being held in flatbush, brooklyn.
i'm sure that venue is where the circuit assemblies are usually held, keeping in mind it's summer and that's when the district assemblies are being held.
why are they acting like they're so strapped for cash and now holding district assemblies in circuit assemblies locations ?.
So funny dark knight. Yup. I was sitting in the first room where all the boxes came. In comes a 'cleaning crew'. I thought that looks odd, not the normal cleaning crew. A few minutes later, not long enough to clean anything, out they go. Asked an elder if that was the money leaving. He confirmed