They should release it and get to the bottom of it. I didn't vote for the old or new administration. I'm sick of the gossip, innuendo and denials. On all sides. If Canada was warmer. . .They have their own intrigues, I'm sure. Im over all this crap every day.
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The FISA Memo, To Release Or Not To Release
by freemindfade inwas the doj, nsa, and fbi weaponized?
the biggest scandal of this era, or a false alarm by the gop?
i am skeptical what will come of it, however, some very strong reactions and words are coming from its existence and those who read it, also the fight to keep it secret is telling (reminds me of any cult trying to prevent people from reading damaging information).
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Looking for a link to the truth be told movie
by blownaway ini see this movie in parts but not the whole thing.
any links?
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JaniceA
You know, if they won't release it on our schedule and for free, then we just have a right to download it from a pirate site. That's how people here get CoC, right? Copyrights are for stupid people who obey the law. Schmucks!
Is my sarcasm showing? Oops!
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White clean shaven man runs over muslims
by silentbuddha inso in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.
why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.
i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.
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JaniceA
Acting as if every JW is a child molester and every homeschool family are abusive nutters or that every white/black/chinese/lgbt/female/male is an imminent threat because a lot of "their kind" has been in the news recently is not logical or rational.
We have a very diverse community that says a lot of controversial things. The banned poster was not the one who brought up "beheading", but after their pointing out the foolishness of the original statement, the excuse was made to ban.
It's a shame that someone who has been shunned since childhood by a religious group for not believing is now shunned by an atheist running a support group of over a decade for believing something unpopular.
If this forum has started disfellowshipping and banning because we don't like the beliefs of others, how are we an improvement over the organization?
This has been a good place to see what they (the organization and JWs) are up to and to express ourselves. I'd hate for it to become a place where every non conforming poster is accused of being a threat for daring to disagree with a moderator.
For those who think she is terribly misled and part of a horrible thing, did you ever think that this has been her safe place? Plenty of posters started posting here defending ideas that they now dont support.
There was no threat ever made, no matter what an extremist group was or is up to.
There is much good that comes from this forum, but this case is not a shining example of "tolerance".
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Best way to deal with anger at the GB while waking up?
by CovertsadJW ingood morning everyone , .
i am wondering how people have personally delt with the anger at the gb when waking up and realizing it’s a scam, lie , and it’s awfully depressing .
i have had difficulty concentrating at work , have had an emotional roller coaster between okay days and awful days.
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JaniceA
Be strategic. Don't let your emotions or your RIGHT to take certain actions or say certain things overwhelm the need to care for yourself long term. Ultimately you want to make wise decisions that will benefit your future and your family.
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White clean shaven man runs over muslims
by silentbuddha inso in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.
why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.
i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.
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JaniceA
Loveunihateexams, maybe the loss off his ever loving mind was what the excommunicated forum member was speaking of. . . "Beheady muslims"? Seems the threat of the Muslim poster was all in your overactive imagination! Heads were definitely "lost" in this thread, college boy. Someone posts for a dozen years in a polite and respectful manner, not losing it even under attack, and they are shut out.
Bravo. You all just saved your virtual world from a rational conversation.
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What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time
by CovertsadJW ingood afternoon , .
i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.
i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.
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JaniceA
Initiate marriage counseling. Document abuse. If things don't change, get divorce and keep kids away from the insanity.
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Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018
by darkspilver injehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.
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JaniceA
A huge country just took all their assets (that they didn't hide first). Another, Australia might soon get some. Other countries are examining their credibility as tax free entities or tax supported entities.
I have some hope, but mostly am counting on attrition to kill them off like shakers. They will outlive me, but maybe not my grandkids.
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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken
by Isambard Crater inwhat are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.
i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..
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JaniceA
Anyone wonder why God couldn't have written a holy book that would need theologians, interpretation, philosophy and linguistics experts to discern the message? It doesn't matter how many of us sincerely sought truth, we needed to be able to evaluate every point of the book and the men who wrote it, lived it and teach it. And bully for us if we discern it incorrectly or follow the wrong teacher or philosophy.
That is the God that's going to judge me? The God who created me to have trouble with long division expects me to figure out the mysteries of the universe in between making a living, raising a family and keeping up with my profession, technology and current events?
So, yeah, you can call me an idiot. But I spent years sincerely trying to seek after the truth and realized that basic human decency cuts across religion, philosophy and politics. So does evil.
So Jesus or God will send me to hell or destroy me for believing wrong when all I have REALLY is a book written in a coded language filled with meanings informed by prehistoric cultures and dead languages that can't be directly translated.
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Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018
by darkspilver injehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.
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JaniceA
When you see a lot of smoke, there is a fire.
When you see people wading through waist high water in the street, you know there is a flood.
When you see a religion who formerly bragged about never asking for donations because doing so would indicate they no longer had God's blessing,asking for donations while they are reducing property holdings, branches, support personnel and their numbers are no longer increasing in impressive numbers. . . While they are being investigated/castigated for their handling of child abuse cases. and publicly called out for their treatment of victims. . .well there are many reasons that they have more month at the end of their money. It's not just the child abuse, but that sure does justify, for many, their lack of financial support to the central org. One used to be able to support local needs only, but the org is taking from that pot too now.
Even if they aren't paying out stupendous amounts of hush money, it's still too much and consequently they have lost the absolute confidence of their monied followers in the west. Many who still believe the doctrine overall (inexplicably) are recognizing that the org might not be a paragon. They may continue to attend but are unwilling to support its "work" at the expense of their families and futures anymore. They are turning into secular JWs. Secular Christians are selling unused churches to be redeveloped into condos, schools and mosques. Kingdom halls are being sold for the same reasons. Not enough butts in the seats. More importantly, not enough donations in the anonymous boxes at the back of the hall.
This child abuse case is just one payout that made the news. How many are quietly settled with no court documents?
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Jehovah's Witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - San Diego Reader (California, US), Friday, January 12, 2018
by darkspilver injehovah's witnesses to settle sex-abuse case - san diego reader (california, us), friday, january 12, 2018.
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JaniceA
I don't know that plaintiffs/victims have to 'concede' anything other than to be silent. . .and not have it all out there. They don't have to admit guilt, but usually are restricted from disclosing any details of the settlement.