Posts by JaniceA

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Governing Body Just got Spanked

by Bill Covert in

yesterday in watchtower documents there was published "flawed decrees conceal criminals.

barbara anderson examined the rnwt revision of lev.5:1 and revealed the wtb&ts to be deceptive as to applying it to congregation members being required to "tattle" on their brothers to expose sin.

she shows that is just not so as lev.5:1 has nothing to do with tattling.

JaniceA

That was incoherent. One would have to live in the writers mind to begin to understand it.

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Spent weekend with 2 all in JWs

by JaniceA in

(warning, rant ahead) .

so much indoctrination!

one who is battling terminal illness was going on about how jehovah blessed them with a good used trailer years ago when they were homeless.

They think only one religion is being interfered with. I pointed out that their perspective is a bit of tunnel vision since they only read news on the subject from the org. They acknowledged the truth.

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Spent weekend with 2 all in JWs

by JaniceA in

(warning, rant ahead) .

so much indoctrination!

one who is battling terminal illness was going on about how jehovah blessed them with a good used trailer years ago when they were homeless.

JaniceA

(Warning, rant ahead)

So much indoctrination! One who is battling terminal illness was going on about how Jehovah blessed them with a good used trailer years ago when they were homeless. Mentioned how distressed they were to see homeless camps set up in downtown of our big city. Dying of cancer, surrounded by homeless people, talking to a person displaced and made homeless recently by a hurricane and the God who blessed her a decade ago with a mouse turd infested used camper isn't saving her from cancer, others from natural disasters or homelessness but isn't Jehovah truly a loving god???

I love these ladies who are going against indoctrination to spend time with me. I can deal with the theocratic nonsense, but don't they even HEAR themselves??

Cancer got her before old age pensions could even kick in! Then they keep going on as if their religion is going to be banned worldwide, signs of times, yada yada.

It was a long weekend, but we had fun outside their earnest reminders that the end was near. The hypocrisy that they (and many) attribute to God just bothers me.

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My JW Elder Brother Passed Away

by minimus in

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he was basically a good man, just a believer in the religion.

when we were both elders we were best of friends and then things deteriorated when i was not an elder for a while.

then after becoming an elder again, i slowly drifted away from the religion and he drifted further away from me.

JaniceA

My condolences n the loss of your brother.

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There is No Way Out For Me

by Addison0998 in

i have come to the conclusion that there is no way for me to ever leave.

although i have some friends at work, my whole social structure are witnesses.

even if i move congregations, my parents have contacts everywhere who will tell them if i’m not active.

JaniceA

At the Hall you can get a feel for who’s into it and who just taking up space. Watch them and learn how they manage it.

get an education and get a career that has you living overseas or traveling a lot if that suits you. You seem young. You can build your life the way that suits you rather than you parents or the org.

When pressed, for now, you don’t have to pretend to be into it. Reluctantly acquiescing isn’t defiance but it also can’t get you df’d. It will let your folks know you won’t be applying to bethel or pioneering.

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What’s your opinion—-Wearing a Trump Hat ok to get kicked out of bar?

by minimus in

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maga hat...make america great again .

guy wears it in nyc bar and gets thrown out.

manhattan court throws out the case citing that since its not religious discrimination, it’s the bar’s right.. what so you think about this?

JaniceA

If I owned a bar, where people get stupid and drunk, id avoid obvious hot button issues especially in NYC.

Bars are filled with provocative behaviors and I guess bar owners choose their battles

I don’t think politics are religious in nature though religion is politicized.

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"You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

hey forum goers.

i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.

bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.

JaniceA

The letter is offensive and as much fun as it would be to cut her down with a sharp and witty response, it will be wasted on her.

Silence wont be! Silence makes the sender wonder why. She might re-read her own words on a different day that has her cult mindset off (a new light, legal involvement locally, a scandal or hall closure) and think about it. Any of those sharp, witty responses though will be promptly deleted and off her radar forever.

i therefore vote for silence.

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JWs studying with a neighbor: what should I do?

by john.prestor in

so let me introduce myself first: i've lurked here for years because i'm working on a long-term research project concerning jehovah's witnesses and i've collected data from this site (seriously, you guys are awesome, i've learned so much from this forum i never would have learned otherwise).

i've also collected data at multiple kingdom halls and read scholarly works on jehovah's witnesses and non-scholarly works as well (e.g., crisis of conscience).

so i have a pretty good sense of jehovah's witnesses even though i was not raised in this faith nor did i ever join up.

JaniceA

The OP got great advice and took it!

One thing the OP might do generally when asked what they do it are passionate about or whatever is mention this years long educational quest and with no pressure make himself available to educate others. He has a wonderful, bias free perspective with no apostasy claims to be made and no agenda other than facts and education. We know it from inside out, but he has an outsiders perspective which may lend him credibility with certain people.

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Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

april 12, 2018. .

JaniceA

My husband was sued civilly about 15 years ago. The lawsuit accused him of dishonesty in his business dealings. He had full coverage insurance for both the business and personal legal coverage. He fought it in court for 6+ years because his good name mattered. The complainant wanted a settlement. Years later it finally went before a judge and was quickly dismissed because it was clearly a nuisance suit. Point is if a small business person can afford to fight for their good name against a major property owner and developer, then a billion dollar company should be able to defend themselves if actually innocent.

Big IF.

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Judge Orders Jehovah's Witnesses to turn over Internal Documents re: Childhood Sexual Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

https://nixlaw.com/news/judge-orders-jehovahs-witnesses-to-turn-over-internal-documents-related-to-childhood-sexual-abuse/.

judge orders jehovah’s witnesses to turn over internal documents related to childhood sexual abuse.

april 12, 2018. .

JaniceA

We learned that certain constitutional provisions go out the door when there is evidence that demonstrates a criminal enterprise. Talk to Michael Cohen about it.

I love a valid search warrant in the morning.