Posts by Wakanda

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New data movement this is what I see as their goals .

by Crazyguy in

after listening to the leaked videos this is what i think it’s all about.

first i don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road.

what i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... this information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time.

Wakanda

I went to see if Deciphering Warship put a video up about this new data subject (DW is super entertaining), but he already had a paranoid video when they added the notes feature. There are a couple crazy ludicrous jumps to conclusions (putting daughter to bed). But there are also a couple good highlights like the girls answer at the meeting about death, the bible getting burned, ruined, torn up, run over, the Skype advertisement/product placement.... So here it is.

Tin Foil ~~Hat~~ Burka Warning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgH2GKIMOe0

The active/awake iPad next to the possibly legally blind girls bed while she sleeps makes me think of the websites that were caught turning peoples cameras on. Not that the they would do that. However, that makes me think of Barbara Anderson telling the story of the Jewish man that lectured and was upset with the writing department. Who was he and how was he connected? Would/could there be others directing the 'brothers' to do things that those directing could use for nefarious actions?

Critique all you want Morph.

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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses always answer questions through the bible?

by MarieChii in

hi.. recently i've been researching jehovah's witnesses and their beliefs and found out that they don't believe in blood transfusions.

so, i've asked one of my friends who is a jw as to what is the reason for this, and so far, they had always directed me to a bible verse that is in their bible.. clearly, i wasn't getting anywhere and so far, it's pretty much frustrating to even make my friend give me reasonable reason.

when i was getting somewhere, even a smidgen, they would answer with a question.

Wakanda

Go to: Bridget fromAZ on Youtube

I've plugged this youtube channel before, but listening to this christian's phone witnessing to JWs will help give you ideas. She also believes Sola scriptura, but knows JWs and Watchtower more than many who used to be JWs. She tries to be kind, and 99% of the time is very nice. JWs push buttons, and every once in a while you can see it gets to her. She shares scriptures with them, when they don't hang up! The Bible is usually what wakes up JWs, but sometimes it's non-biblical stuff like evolution or science.

Hope this helps and Good Luck. Here's one on blood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD_lliVoDR4

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New data movement this is what I see as their goals .

by Crazyguy in

after listening to the leaked videos this is what i think it’s all about.

first i don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road.

what i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... this information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time.

Wakanda

Yeah. I was just covering my bases there. And it is fun to say "Tin Foil Hat Warning!!!"

Yes, saying they might go kill those that chose to partake is ridiculous.

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Example of sensitive data – should I be worried?

by Fay Dehr in

### here's a link to a high-quality version of the above form: https://1drv.ms/u/s!amcrvjcxi6m6a2mdhysjdll3m00 ###.

the attached image is the rear of form a-27; this is just example of many forms that contain personal data.

i’d like to know: should i be worried?.

Wakanda

Just want to say I'm loving reading these posts. When one brings me into the edge of craziness, another grounds me with reason. I'm not totally agreeing with either, but it is helping me think.

ps. I did not ever think they would assassinate someone for partaking! ha ha ha ha ha. They only kill people with shunning, the no blood policy, neglect, ... But, really they would not murder for you for becoming annointed.

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I attended my 2nd exjw meetup and it was brilliant

by UnshackleTheChains in

i decided to attend my 2nd scottish exjw meetup and what a blast.

so many experiences.

it was incredibly engaging to actually meet people in the flesh and hearing their personal stories.. the damage the watchtower organisation causes to peoples lives is absolutely disgusting.

Wakanda

o.k. I ignored Himself I am's comment until read the reactions I did.

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh himself I am!

God Oh My.

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New data movement this is what I see as their goals .

by Crazyguy in

after listening to the leaked videos this is what i think it’s all about.

first i don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road.

what i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... this information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time.

Wakanda

Crazyguy: If a publisher moves to another congregation so as to fade, the data can be moved to the jurisdiction of the new elder body of the territory.

_Morpheus: Now that i actually can agree with.

Finally! Thank you Morpheus.

So for those who have the means to move, no celebrating holidays for you!!! You gotta keep faking it for the no fun police of WT.

Possible Tin Foil Hat warning for next paragraph:

Secondly, I think there are people on that data base that were never CO, elder, MS, Pioneer, etc. Even when they were watchtower.borg pre jw.borg in around 2013 I believe anyone could set up a log in with them. Even sisters could set up a personal log in! Wow! What a privilege we have, and how we are honored! Since then they have recently been pushing people to set up a log in, and to have a recurring withdrawal to wt set up. Aren't these people part of 750,000 already in 'the Hub'? Maybe I'm wrong. IDK. Seems like they would not let those slip by.

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2018-04-05-BOE- Adjustment to May's Local Needs item!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2018-04-05 ( if i get the video i will post it for you.

)adjustment to may's local needs itemhttps://we.tl/rd6immtnvtatlantis!.

Wakanda

Dreamerdude, one of those 20 K holes was in Pierre, SD. They tore down the old to build a smaller one.

http://www.capjournal.com/news/pierre-jehovah-s-witnesses-put-up-smaller-kingdom-hall-to/article_e05d9c36-d8b9-11e7-acb3-9f63fb65c896.html

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What is CT Russell's motive?

by sinboi in

what is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?

did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?

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Wakanda

Russell started his own 'movement' (religion/cult) just like all the many, many Adventist end day movements at the time (1). I just cannot see his sincerity since he copied so many phrases they used like "present truth", "new light", "opposers", "meat in due season", "Babylon the Great", "this generation", "faithful class", "the truth", "pioneer work" and to my knowledge did not give credit to the originators (2). Is that sincere? These buzz words and phrases were in use by the Adventists or Millerites since the 1840s, and Russell copied them. Also, a sincere person searching the scriptures would have many other sincere people helping him to see why and how his 'movement' was full of heresy. He may have been sincere, but stubborn as hell, and enjoying his adoring fans, which led to evil culty actions. Here is a link to publications in PDF exposing Russellism in his day: http://www.watchtower.exposed/c-t-russell-exposed-jehovahs-witnesses-foundation/

1. The many end-time Advent magazines set to music (don't blame me, WW3 :) from Bridget fromAZ youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWVeAhNzPcA

2. Phraseology and buzzwords from Adventist/Russell parallels. this is part 3 of 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gTuQY5-Ya4

Then a year before his death in 1915 he was accused of kidnapping a girl with money into his cult. I cannot believe again that a nice sincere man turned into someone who allowed this to happen. People become famous with adoring fans all the time and do not turn into cult leaders that kidnap girls with money, right? There has to be a tendency (of narcissism or whatever) there from before the fame. Sure it wasn't as culty as now, but for a big newspaper to say it? That says something. Here's Bridget's video on that story in the Chicago Daily Tribune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbkKbQOSkE

Russell lost control of his life with all the death in his family of origin. I personally think at this moment, that he was trying to get some control of others, but I may change my mind in the future.

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The right to record your judicial committee meeting

by UnshackleTheChains in

ok.. we have often heard secret recordings online of jc hearings.

but, what i would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their judicial hearings?.

supposing i was to attend a judicial committee and i explained up front that i would like to record the proceedings and then place a dictaphone on the table.

Wakanda

For these United States:

https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LAWS-ON-RECORDING-CONVERSATIONS-CHART.pdf

My peanut gallery comments form a quick cursory look at the above pdf.: New York is one party in case anybody is talking to the GB, ha ha never. Illinois is all parties, interesting with Chicago and it's history of criminal politics. I love Chicago, btw, it's just a fact that it has a politically shady past and probably present. You should visit it if you can, downtown, Miracle Mile and state street, and more, just not South Chicago.

That being said, they hide JCs from new people as long as possible. If they try get the law involved, they get publicity for one of their most secret and culty practices. As the victim of the JC you could try to get even more publicity because of the charge against you.

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You MUST Sign the Data Collection Form "...obey...whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.¨"

by gone for good in

the many and complex issues surrounding the collection of person data and new laws aiming to protect individuals control of their own privacy, seem to have hatched about the same time as the governing body expressed their hope that it´s own 8 million would obey their order to "sign this form" effectively transfering total authority over privacy and data issues over to the borg.. what are your thoughts on this coincidence?.

zuckerberg lost billion$$ when people realized that he had prostituted their personal data and now wt wants the same signed access that he had to info that is $$$.... wt already owns all the real estate and now wants to own all the data.... it´s a current and global issue - please share your thought with the rest of us here.. .

Wakanda

_Morpheus ,

If I answer a speculative question in the future about something that the watchtower may do, and it sounds ominous and 1984ish I'll be sure to give a Tin Foil Hat Warning.