Posts by Wakanda

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Withdrawing community support in the congs

by purrpurr in

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i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

Wakanda

Just look at the leaked videos about going to the cong you are assigned whether it makes sense or not. They were splitting up families. They are purposely tearing apart their communities. I've seen it with combining congs. They don't' just combine, they move people all over the place that have come to know each other. It's a mess, and people are more zombie ish than ever because they are supposed to be happy, but they are more miserable than ever.

It's like crackdown on big parties in the 80s, but now they are switching up congregations. Like if people don't get too familiar with each other, apostasy won't break out!

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Major Article in Today's Philadelphia Inquirer on JW Child Abuse

by Room 215 in

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sexual-abuse-children-beliefs-rules.html.

Wakanda

excellent. Thanks Room 215. and Thanks Barbara.

They are starting to understand. We need a This American Life expose on JWs sort of like when they got a pulitzer for 'Bad Bank'. (Thought I'd put that out there, cos when I said we need elder's to record elders meeting that seemed to work!)

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What are the reasons for the the new electronic publisher card

by poopie in

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please speculate.

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Wakanda

P.E. Saves paper? I don't see how this could be a trick.

They have been saving paper on time slips for years. It must be 99% that turn their time in via text or phone. People were bragging about it before the iPads were a thing. It was the hip thing to do if you were a publisher or elder. Now it is very rare to have an elder that doesn't take your time via text, and they are getting rid of them. They are letting those elders that don't text off the hook, and other elders are doing that work.

It is definitely a control thing; its gotta be easier to red flag individuals. Algorithms can be set up, and C.O.s can enforce the shepherding calls on such 'weak' ones.

I'm not trying to slam you P.E., I'm just not buying the saving paper reason. At. All. You rock, btw.

Edit: Oh, also, who is going to switch from paper to electric card? The texters will switch from text to on-line, the paper reliant people will need others to fill in the 'electronic' card.

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Do you miss that initial "high" ??

by stuckinarut2 in

do you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the truth"?.

yes, it was confronting, shocking and life altering.

yes it was hard to deal with.. but, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.. it was liberating to learn some of the controversial teachings etc.

Wakanda

Cortisol. Truck loads of cortisol. Still pumping as an effing PIMO with the love of my life being PIMI. Can't ask him hard questions for a month (there's a situation), then I need to ramp it up for my own hormonal safety.

It was a Ton of Bricks.

I remember forgetting to lock my car, not being aware of my surroundings, crying myself to sleep. It was when Margaret Sanger got to talking about how cults keep you busy in the following video that I broke down and cried myself to sleep when hubby was away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bRBFhMEQFk

In fact, I think making a movie composite of people waking up, going from one person to the next as they covertly look online and their reactions would make an interesting film. Probably a short, or it would be a small segment of a movie. Just one person is too boring.

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Are the 8 superstar Popes planning a purge?

by Sour Grapes in

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there are over 8 million jdubs and i would venture a guess that at least 20% to 30% are pimo.

in my opinion, the kingdom hauls are only half full for two reasons....many have left but the majority are pimo and any little excuse will keep them home and they will report their token ghost hours in service.

all it takes to stay home is being tired, too much school homework or i will go next week, no doubt many have taken part-time jobs and the fear of working the second shift and the guilt of missing meetings is gone.

Wakanda

Well, it's a top down org. I think Kevin McFree's latest video sort of answered the question. I started another thread about it, but for convenience:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOE3AbgHaVU

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Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult

by Not_Culty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.

she helped me.

sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.

Wakanda

She was an inspiration! I only saw a few of her posts as I was waking up, and now thanks to Simon I can look through the older posts from when I was asleep as a JDub.

Thank you Grace.

Hallisey says GDPR could create a minefield when prosecuting WT for sexual abuse

by Wakanda in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8cu6jh/sexual_abuse_survivors_this_article_on_jwvictims/.

i wish that those who want to take wt to court to know what this may mean for them.

my other thread about this topic.

Wakanda

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8cu6jh/sexual_abuse_survivors_this_article_on_jwvictims/

I wish that those who want to take WT to court to know what this may mean for them. My other thread about this topic. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5715082848763904/gdpr-may-give-wt-license-destroy-files-about-rape

I hope this helps those that are thinking of telling WT to erase there info, and yet think they may sue them in the future. It may be giving the WT the perfect out.

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Need some encouragemant

by LogansRun in

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its been awhile since i've commented but i come by and read your posts about once a week.

so why do i need a pep talk ?

after almost 2 years into my fade these bastards won't give it a rest constant hang ups on my answering machine and today for the first time in about 6 months they come to my apartment complex but thankfully couldn't get in they did keep buzzing me so they were here looking for me.

Wakanda

Keep dodging Logan's Run! They seem to get a bug up their butt every once in a while, however it gets tiring always dealing with the rejection. They know on some level that you are rejecting them, and will move on to other things... Then something will happen, C.O., whatever, and another wave of dodging will start again.

Were rooting for you. Keep your stick on the ice (Red Green reference).

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GDPR may give WT license to destroy files about Rape

by Wakanda in

i think this has somewhat been touched on with regard to wt protecting the abuser, but it didn't make too much sense to me until i watch kimmy's video from two hours ago.

she talks about coc on amazon until minute two, so skip if you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3n7fdwug6k.

Wakanda

Thanks Slidin. I wish I could still edit it because I would put Kathleen Hallisey's name near the top and Kim's later, so people see it and click on it. I think some may ignore it because they dismiss Mike and Kim. They shouldn't.

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GDPR may give WT license to destroy files about Rape

by Wakanda in

i think this has somewhat been touched on with regard to wt protecting the abuser, but it didn't make too much sense to me until i watch kimmy's video from two hours ago.

she talks about coc on amazon until minute two, so skip if you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3n7fdwug6k.

Wakanda

I think this has somewhat been touched on with regard to WT protecting the abuser, but it didn't make too much sense to me until I watch Kimmy's video from two hours ago. She talks about COC on Amazon until minute two, so skip if you like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3N7fdwUG6k

Also, Alexandra James wrote a blog, which Kim reads in whole or in part where Kathleen Hallisey weighs in. Alexandra wrote to her and Ms. Hallisey was nice enough to respond. Here is the post:

https://jwvictims.org/2018/04/16/an-urgent-warning-to-uk-child-sex-abuse-survivors-regarding-the-new-gdpr-laws/

Hope this helps someone make the right decision. It seems to be a case of being between a rock and a hard place. Consulting a lawyer seems to be in order, especially if you are a rape victim.