Posts by Wakanda

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LEAK: 3000 buildings to liquidate. How to choose? (Watchtower propaganda video)

by Fay Dehr in

https://youtu.be/pzdxen9rvw0.

as the leaked financial meetings show, watchtower (by it's own admission) has to liquidate 3000+ properties quickly.

how do they choose?

Wakanda

Crap. Fay Dehr's channel is gone.

Don't stop Fay Dehr!

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hall crash

by intrigue169 in

i live in the des moines iowa area , i would be interested in doing a kingdom hall crash after watching some on youtube, i would love to do that with a group of people.

i haven't meet any other ex jw around here.

i was never baptized, i always knew i could never live up to jehovah's standard so i never did even consider baptizing.

Wakanda

The message they got was apostates are mentally diseased. Some were blocking their faces. Do what you think you must, but you were warned by many here that it does not help.

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hall crash

by intrigue169 in

i live in the des moines iowa area , i would be interested in doing a kingdom hall crash after watching some on youtube, i would love to do that with a group of people.

i haven't meet any other ex jw around here.

i was never baptized, i always knew i could never live up to jehovah's standard so i never did even consider baptizing.

Wakanda

Here it is, maybe not in Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPRfTp9PeZ4

Skip to minute 33 to hear her comment, it was at the end of the meeting. IDK, but there ya go.

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hall crash

by intrigue169 in

i live in the des moines iowa area , i would be interested in doing a kingdom hall crash after watching some on youtube, i would love to do that with a group of people.

i haven't meet any other ex jw around here.

i was never baptized, i always knew i could never live up to jehovah's standard so i never did even consider baptizing.

There is a woman from Canada, I think, that answered at the meeting thinking she would be thrown out. She was not. Also, another woman thanked her for her answer after the meeting! Apologies for not having a link; I am PIMO and have a hard time keeping track of stuff because I do not save it.

Check out Telltale Atheist's video on hall crashing. It's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwdAUKY3OpU

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Accounts report at Circuit Assemblies to go away

by LevelThePlayingField in

i was at the regional convention and asked an elder why is that at the assemblies their is an accounts report but not at the conventions?

he said, well actually they got a letter and in it said that in a little while they will do away with the accounts report stating how much the assembly costs for the weekend and just go to donation basis like at the conventions.. my first thought was, "they will donate even less now.".

anybody else hear about such a thing?.

Wakanda

Well, there's no accounts report on the recorded assemblies they put out for shut-ins (the ones that get "leaked").

They must remain united!

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Time to remind JWs of this famous quote from CT Russell!

by stuckinarut2 in

with the ever present issue of the society seeming to run out of money, and constantly asking the flock for more donations, maybe it is time to revive this quote!.

the leaked financial dept videos that have done the rounds, clearly show the society is in desperate trouble financially.. so, where is the "almighty's hand"?

where is his ability to provide funds?

Wakanda

I remember that AveJoe too. Then again they do that type of thing all the time, it's jus that time it was money. Nice to know people notice. My hall would not show any emotion at that time.

I've seen a man from Africa shake his head in disgust during the accounts report at an assembly. But, he otherwise appears to be a loyal jdub. :(

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Reg Pioneers went down around 50,000 ?

by Wakanda in

yesterday's wt study (june 17) said: .

records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.. well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. looks like they lost some!.

also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!.

Wakanda

1,100,000 "full time" pioneers is about 13% of all jw's worldwide. There are 140 in my wife's congo and 15 pioneers. I don't see 13% pioneers in any of the congregations I know of. How about you?

Right! I was thinking about that too. 1.1 out of 8.whatever million. It seems more like 6.whatever million anyway!

?? So if last year according to Yearly Report there were 1,249,946 (regular?) pioneers and 'now' they claim "the average number of regular pioneers has 'grown to' over 1,100,000." This would be a 'decrease' since last year of 149,946 or about 12%! I am not understanding!

Apostate cognitive dissonance? ;) Well, I was being generous just in case wt's number was 1,199,999, and someone got picky with me. They said over 1,100,000 so they did not give the real wt number.

I wonder if we will see other 'growth' in baptisms or such. I think they are prepping their minds for the next statistics that replace the yearbook.

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Reg Pioneers went down around 50,000 ?

by Wakanda in

yesterday's wt study (june 17) said: .

records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.. well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. looks like they lost some!.

also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!.

Wakanda

Yesterday's wt study (June 17) said:

Records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.

Well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. Looks like they lost some!

Also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!

I still think they lie about their numbers, but I think they may have to stick to their current exaggeration percentages and lower the reported numbers.

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JWs & "generations"

by Magnum in

we all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.

but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.

his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.

Wakanda

I commiserate Magnum. They were and are so full of it; it is such a foreign thought to think about how confident they/we were in the 70s/80s (and before, but that was before me). That wt with it's confidence made mental illness and personality disorders like a hurricane makes tornados, though. It just makes me think of some real jerks, not you of course. But I digress. Here's hoping you are feeling a little better soon, and thank you for sharing your memories and current challenges... and those challenges are huge. Sorry.

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Story out of Sacramento demon possessed pioneers

by poopie in

anyone heard anything?.

Wakanda

Always look forward to poopie's posts.

Haven't heard about that story poopie.