Posts by Wakanda

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Reclaimed voices respond to jw.org's recent public statement regarding the Dutch governments decision to investigate

by Diogenesister in

i'm so sorry if this has already been posted but i think its too important and interesting to miss.. reclaimed voices chairman raymond hintjies responds to jw.orgs dutch lawyer's statement that the dutch govt.

investigating watchtower's 300 incidents of csa would be akin to"shooting a mosquito with a water cannon" .

i particularly like raymond's sensitive message to concerned jw parents, at around 3 minutes or so, .

Wakanda

WT is projecting again with their cannon/mosquito thing. They want to handle individuals and not the foundation Reclaimed Voices. They want to be the cannon and the victim will be the mosquito.

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Watchtower Spies and Secret Agents

by TerryWalstrom in

i'm posting this link:http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/spies.htmlonce you start reading it you won't be able to stop.fascinating and well-documented citations which give credibility to the belief that such a sneaky, underhanded, and often illegal practice has been secretly promoted for decades by watchtower society world headquarters..

Wakanda

Here's a nutcase doing stupid, and probably illegal things: Starts at about 44 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRxO6NTl1n4&frags=pl%2Cwn

I don't think the methods come from the top. But if it helps WT, they don't mind and individuals probably encourage it. Tattletales are encouraged and rewarded, so anything goes as as far as apostates, as long as you don't get caught.

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Lies! Since the Watchtower knows how to lie, they can give expert advice on it.

by days of future passed in

study article for october: speaking the truth.

the article is about lying, but the wt is all about lying.

i guess they are concerned with their followers lying to them!.

Wakanda

Also, scare quotes:

They can imply doubt or ambiguity in words or ideas within the marks,[12] or even outright contempt.[13] They can indicate that a writer is purposely misusing a word or phrase[14] or that the writer is unpersuaded by the text in quotes,[15] and they can help the writer deny responsibility for the quote.

help the writer deny responsibility for the quote...

Yes. I think that's it.

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Are YOU Shunned By JW Family or Friends?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some who are not disfellowshipped are still shunned i also know there’ are disfellowshipped ones that family still associate with..

Wakanda

No one knows I'm on here. No one knows of me ever associating with disfellowshipped ones. I have been shunned by my family for decades for crossing the one in charge. I have never been in a jc. In divorced families it is called alienation, but my parents weren't divorced. It was slow starting and secret from me. Secret family meeting anyone? What happened to me scared the rest into line. Another family member that is known as an apostate is treated better, but is also told to keep secrets from me. They don't promise to keep info from me, hence are not told. Insane making.

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Corporate Virtue Signalling At Your Expense

by Simon in

the latest trend seems to be that you can't go to any store without being asked for money.. no, not the money for the things you went in there to purchase, extra money for the store to donate to charity.. yes, that's right, the big-name stores, often making $millions in profits, ask you to give them extra money so that they can give it to charity and get some publicity about how awesome they are so that they'll look good to their customers, like, erm, you.. it seems to have ramped up more in the last year or so and frankly, it pisses me off.

if i want to donate to some cause, i'll give the money straight to them.

i hate that it puts people on the spot to guilt them into donating and imagine some people on a tight budget may give even when they can't really afford it.. often you don't know what the charities really are (it's vague like "to help children") or how the money will be spent or even how much will go on the people it's supposedly to help (charity is a multi $billion industry, some just exist to pay themselves).. so what to do?

Wakanda

I have received negative judgement, from one store in particular. That store is too convenient to not shop at, but I avoid it when it is at all possible. So, yes, negative judgement does exist. It is sort of like the skit on Portlandia about the person that didn't have the bag, like 2% as bad. It's judgement none the less.

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Corporate Virtue Signalling At Your Expense

by Simon in

the latest trend seems to be that you can't go to any store without being asked for money.. no, not the money for the things you went in there to purchase, extra money for the store to donate to charity.. yes, that's right, the big-name stores, often making $millions in profits, ask you to give them extra money so that they can give it to charity and get some publicity about how awesome they are so that they'll look good to their customers, like, erm, you.. it seems to have ramped up more in the last year or so and frankly, it pisses me off.

if i want to donate to some cause, i'll give the money straight to them.

i hate that it puts people on the spot to guilt them into donating and imagine some people on a tight budget may give even when they can't really afford it.. often you don't know what the charities really are (it's vague like "to help children") or how the money will be spent or even how much will go on the people it's supposedly to help (charity is a multi $billion industry, some just exist to pay themselves).. so what to do?

Wakanda

I say I donate in MY OWN NAME.

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Moving Back to Chicago - Don't care

by LevelThePlayingField in

my wife was diagnosed with ms about two years ago.

we have been living in ohio for the last 5 years but were recently assigned to a new congregation because of the dissolving and sale of our congregation/kh.

my wife's symptoms spiked after being relocated to our new hall back in january.

Wakanda

Good for you. Bravo.

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Dutch Branch office response to the motion accepted by Parliament: "an investigation is shooting with a cannon on a mosquito"

by jochie in

today a large article was published in a dutch newspaper 'dagblad van het noorden'.

it is about frank huiting, the reclaimed voices foundation and the adopted motion in parliament.

the branch office has given a reaction:.

Wakanda

Double counting.

Me thinks this is projecting.

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Youtube videos doing the JW rounds. Gods name

by pleaseresearch in

so here in the uk this video is getting jws very excited.

now my mum actualy said it wa funny to hear jw music at the start and finish.

so i'm wondering if the watchtower had any input into this.

Wakanda

If you put Fritz Poppenberg and Lorenz Reibling, not at the same time, in the search here, you'll find out a lot about the makers and underwriters of this film.

Birds of a feather...

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Kids in my kingdom hall

by Akid48 in

i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.

when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..

Wakanda

That's horrible. Just horrible. They always talk about being approachable, but they are NOT.

These kind of realizations will continue to happen kid. We are behind you and glad to see you had a moment to post. Good luck laying low.