Posts by Wakanda

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a question after my first JW meeting

by bleak in

i attended my first jw meeting recently.

first, i would like to say what i agree with about the jehovah's witnesses beliefs and practices.. 1. they don't consider israeli's as "god's chosen people" and they don't worship israel as some holy land filled with righteous jews (although there are some there) as most so-called "christians" (christian zionists) erroneously believe they are instead of the "hypocrites" and "vipers" that it is actually filled with.. 2. they don't celebrate "holidays" like easter and christmas which are, in fact, remnants of earlier pagan practices.. 3. they don't put nation before god and christ.

they don't believe in war or going to war because of some crazy government/cia secret agenda.

Wakanda

Now for my question...
1. Why do they seem to take some parts/passages of the Bible literally and others figuratively?

Because it suits their cultiness. Look at this link. Search for Jehovah's Witnesses on the page; they are on there three times.

http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/cultsmisreadbible.html

As is often said on this site: Let's review: It's a cult. Good luck in life bleak. I would suggest researching cults to make sure another doesn't try to recruit you, and get some therapy to see why you were vulnerable to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Edit to say: The reason suits are required is to make you different, a cult tactic. The bible only talks about modesty, but when they talk about 'dress and grooming' they bring up scriptures on modesty to enforce the dress code that goes waaay beyond modesty.

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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow in

this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

so who is lorenz reibling?

Wakanda

I just gotta bump this for newer people like me.

One reason is I do not want to lose it as I need to shut off incognito before I'm done reading!

OrphanCrow, you are amazing.

Wakanda

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Lurkers

by Freedom rocks in

do you think elders and gb members monitor this site to catch people?.

Wakanda

Ttdtt, that is exactly what I was thinking. If anyone with external plumbing suspects apostates, or a circuit has 'apostate activity' I could see the c.o. assigning one or two elders to watch sites like this. He could look back on a suspects history and have an elder from an old congregation or two monitor this site also. If they spend all night on a stake out, they would welcome staying home reading this stuff and making notes on each of us to narrow down the apostate! Family ruining Assholes.

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Pillowgate - John Cedars

by CitizenofEarth in

is this true?

is this really true?!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.

Wakanda

So funny!!!

Bless that leaker! (and not by Jehober)

It must be bethhell for him/her. Most likely a him as a her would not get access I assume.

I hope he is having some fun today, and not too worried about getting caught.

When he or she gets out I want to help out somehow, don't know how, maybe send some goodies in the mail. IDK.

Anyway, thank you, thank you, thank you leaker!

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Tony "Tightpants" Morris Talks Of Tight Pants AGAIN!!

by pale.emperor in

again with the pants... tony, if you can't stop looking at young men in tight pants don't take it out on the rest of us.

https://www.facebook.com/john.cedars.5/posts/868329653345317.

Wakanda

I watched Cedars rebuttal. Tony, like the cult leader he is, likes to control every aspect of your life. 'He says scriptural families don't say about medical issues: this famous doctor says such and such. Ya know what I think about that doctor? whoppee. That's what I think.' -Paraphrased. It's about 40 minutes in.

Go suck it Tony. How dare you say how I or anybody takes care of their own body. Also, what the hell are you talking about??? Cedars thought it was Dr. Phil, but I noticed you mentioned medical issues, and that ain't Dr. Phil. You need some real brain help, can afford whatever doctor you are talking about, and should probably go see him or her.

I think Tony feels threatened by JWs that may travel for medical care because it is much harder to sic the HLC on them. He also wants ALL the money. Don't spend it on getting healthy! You might figure out the cult was what made you ill!

If he isn't controlling PIMI or PIMO's choice in doctors, he is controlling their talking about them!!!

Also, he does look like Dick Cheney. He makes me so angry.

Edit: by the time you were done with one sentence your brain probably thought you meant Dr. Phil. That is how disjointed, stupid and sloppy your sermon was Tony. It was a sermon, not a "talk".

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The Harp of God book

by blownaway in

i am looking for the book the harp of god.

i am told it has some crazy passages in it.

can anyone put up some quotes of the book?

Wakanda

Thank you Orphan Crow!!! PIMI hubby wonders why all the books are not available on JWborg. Now I have a non apostate place to go look for them! Yes!

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Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

especially for the first sister they talk about!.

Wakanda

We could really use some awake elders recording elder meetings. It is probably being done, but cannot be released until the elder is in a safe place in life and o.k. to leave the borg/already left.

It would be great to have any, but a dozen or so from a handful of congregations could really give a great overall picture to the world.

Apologies for the tangent, and thanks for o.p. with the video Pale.

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Wait one minute here!!! Did the GB PURPOSEFULLY launch a D.O.S. attack on Russia? (aka the letter writting campaign)

by GTSfromSY in

i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.

a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.

he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.

Wakanda

Wow Orphan Crow! Thanks.

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Will #metoo have an affect on forcing changing attitudes at Watchtower?

by jwfacts in

despite decades of the feminist movement, watchtower's attitude of woman being inferior has changed little, with pauline sexism justified as inspired, on the basis that women are lesser emotionally, intellectually and physically.

jehovah's witnesses seem to accept this with little resistance.

is there anything about the #metoo movement that may wake followers up?

Wakanda

Get your barf bag ready for trigger words:

It will not affect Watchtower. Followers are trained to think that this is yet another proof that this old system needs to be destroyed. The thinking is either: 1. "Look at the poor women trying to be treated kindly, too bad they aren't JWs and get the honor they deserve" or 2. "Stupid feminism, those women should shut up." I think some JW men think along the lines of the latter, but talk the talk of the former to sisters.

Twice I heard from elders that "sisters are falsely accusing brothers of rape". It was 200 miles apart from each other and I suspect they learned it from their elders school.

However, I believe some who have been poorly treated (understatement!), and who are finding commiseration with the ~~#m3~~t #metoo movement may start to find EXJW stuff and find freedom. I think it is important for EXJWs to tell their #metoo story, so people are aware.

I wish I could be more optimistic!

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Wait one minute here!!! Did the GB PURPOSEFULLY launch a D.O.S. attack on Russia? (aka the letter writting campaign)

by GTSfromSY in

i know this sounds very outlandish by the title but hear this one out:.

a few months back i spoke to an old friend of mine raised "around the truth", but never baptized and wanting nothing to do with the wt.

he is very hip to what is going on in the wt however.

Wakanda

It seems that Amnesty International's numbers are dwarfed by what the JWs said they did. At least according to what I read here: https://www.amnestyusa.org/victory-russian-prisoner-of-conscience-freed-as-write-for-rights-2013-reaches-1-4-million-actions/

I heard it was a world wide letter writing campaign. Each JW was to send five letters to five guys in Russia. They bragged about how an extra plane was needed for the JW letters. Many sent 10 or 15 letters and bragged about that.

I would not want to be looking for my medicine in the mail in Russia at that time.

Of what benefit or for who's benefit?

WT can call persecution for ages now and it helps keep their sheep brainwashed. "Remember what happened in Russia, and how they wouldn't listen to our reasonable letters?"

IT'S FISHY. It's ILLOGICAL. It's IRRATIONAL.

Like so much from WT, yet they are slippery and slimy and so far keep getting away with it.

BTW, Cedars got a leaked video of a legal department meeting from around last March. It shows how excited they got talking about Russian persecution. It is called "The Persecution Complex".

How could NO ONE have warned them what they could be responsible for a D.O.S? That is my first thought reading your OP. Oh wait. Maybe a sister did. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. That goes to show sisters should not be in the legal department! No one listens!