Wild thing,
Wow! I remember staying late too. uggh. Never had to sing to drown out fighting tho! Great story.
i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.
a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.
apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?
Wild thing,
Wow! I remember staying late too. uggh. Never had to sing to drown out fighting tho! Great story.
every now and then, my wife will talk about how things are not making sense within the org.
i usually just dismiss it as her playing mind games with me.
for example, she would ask why there are so many branches being closed or why so many congregations are being merged.
I think she is awakening, to answer your question. I'm jealous! The closest I get is that cognitive dissonance thinking expression on my husbands face. He did look up when Russell died and the reign of Rutherford. I was asking him who was the small group in 1919 that was the FDS? He never answered, but started thinking. Maybe I'll bring it up again. He actually said there were some of the GC in 1919. Really? What would happen in 1919 if you didn't partake??? Everyone would, notice how visitors partake now. He didn't answer, but had the CD (cog dis) look. Anyway, I digress.
Congratulations noconsequence. Keep asking questions and try not to share facts. It's hard. Maybe prepare mentally for regression and one last bit of zealousness, but I hope not.
Thanks for sharing. I'm in a similar circumstance and it gives me hope.
Bless you,
Wakanda
ps: To me the Cog Dis, CD, look is like a crabby thinking look. Like the person is putting together a puzzle and figuring out half the pieces are missing even though their trusted mentor continually tells them that they are all there.
it's that time of year again.. trying to decide if i should or shouldn't.
:-).
jwundubbed,
Great idea, but they wouldn't count it. They would see it for what it is, and not turn it in to headquarters.. :(
hi everyone, this is my first post.
i studied the bible weekly with a wonderful jw.
i suddenly stopped because things just seemed to be getting stranger.
Maybe this would help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CXab3nYjl4
Good luck. There are always restraining orders.
I'm a fan of doorbell cameras used to record a JW visit, and then putting it up on youtube.
has anybody else noticed a pattern that is here among us outcasts?
there seems to be, on average, a higher level of intelligence here than there is at the kingdom hall.
actually, intelligent conversation seems to be looked down upon among the witnesses.. also, the simple language skills found here seem to be above average compared to those among the witnesses.
Sometimes when I say/said something that sounded 'uppity' or intelligent to the JW I was talking to, they would say "Wow, you are very smart" or the like. They would change the subject to the topic of how knowledgeable I am.
Maybe they were uncomfortable thinking.
I wasn't, but for too many years I excused problems by blaming individuals, and not the WT system. Well, that's what they want, and brainwash us to believe.
Thanks for the observation Stillin!
Wakanda
ps. When looking at what cult researchers say, it is not about intelligence. There are many reasons that keep people in, and I do not remember intelligence being one of them. Yes it is exhausting trying to wake them up. exhausting.
Debra,
Wow. You have worked very hard updating and adding new information that I bet it will prove to be invaluable. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I give you my sincere sympathy on your husbands death, and wish for the best during the anniversary. You also deal with the shunning that all EX-JWs endure, and with hate from EX-JWs. When you said 'I'll have to see what Jesus says' I thought that was a nod to Jeffery Jackson, and that we will never see the book in print again. I'm sorry for posting that, and hope you understand the mind rape we have all been through that makes us behave like morons before we've had about a decade of therapy. I will be buying many hard copies to donate to libraries. Thank you again.
Mike and Kim,
This is marvelous! I really never thought it would happen. Congratulations on getting to announce it to all of us, you deserve it.
Wakanda
p.s. BTW, I'm not on Reddit. I lurk and do not like the JC sycophant behavior. I've done enough research that hopefully I'm not falling for following a man again, uggh.
i met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.
on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.
it was not planned, it just happened.
I really don't know much about the JW beliefs other than the booklet he gave me and what little information is in it.
WHY have you not been on JWfacts.com?????
It seems you really want to filter our responses and see what you want to see.
Look up JPSears videos on Youtube and watch the one on Narcissists. But, FIRST read JWFacts.com
Again, you will find a lot of info on JWFACTS.COM. It is where to start. You will understand how your little booklet lies.
i met a wonderful man on match.com several months ago.
on our first date, there was amazing chemistry and we ended up having sex.
it was not planned, it just happened.
I think a link to the elder's video where they are telling the young man to leave his pregnant girlfriend would be helpful here. It is very telling. I apologize for my lousy searching skills.
Oh, and RUN!
there are many terms used at bethel that might sound foreign to normal people.
there are many words or terms used at bethel that are unique only to their organization.
here are just a few of them.. “a jack” this is someone who is a slacker or just lazy.. “a pot licker” this term has been used for many years but its connotation is unclear.
Thanks for the enjoyable story Howie!
And thank you New boy for the terms.
freud came up with the idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/anal_retentiveness.
i would like to sight some examples of a anal retentiveness of the biblical deity.. the garden of eden and the death penalty for eating a fruit, which by the way was passed on to all future offspring requiring an anal retentive jehovah to provide a suitable sacrifice of his only begotten son to correct the situation and thus make it possible for forgiveness from the big guy and remove the death curse.. working on a saturday= death penalty.
mandatory blue thread and fringes on all israelite garments.. death penalty for touching the ark of the covenant to prevent it from tipping over.. exclusive devotion only to be given to him, bowing to other gods/idols forbidden.. grows hot with anger and becomes violently enraged killing off all kinds of human and animal life with a flood when humans not living the way he feels is right.. threatening to tread on mankind like a mighty man crushing grapes under his feet when pissed off.. loss of self control when pissed off over insignificant trifles.
Brokeback, have you read the problem with Job by Carl Jung? Please pardon my lack of lurking over your posts if you have talked about it. I think you'd like it.
Yes. Jehovah is an anal retentive narcissist.