Posts by Wakanda

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Reg Pioneers went down around 50,000 ?

by Wakanda in

yesterday's wt study (june 17) said: .

records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.. well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. looks like they lost some!.

also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!.

Wakanda

1,100,000 "full time" pioneers is about 13% of all jw's worldwide. There are 140 in my wife's congo and 15 pioneers. I don't see 13% pioneers in any of the congregations I know of. How about you?

Right! I was thinking about that too. 1.1 out of 8.whatever million. It seems more like 6.whatever million anyway!

?? So if last year according to Yearly Report there were 1,249,946 (regular?) pioneers and 'now' they claim "the average number of regular pioneers has 'grown to' over 1,100,000." This would be a 'decrease' since last year of 149,946 or about 12%! I am not understanding!

Apostate cognitive dissonance? ;) Well, I was being generous just in case wt's number was 1,199,999, and someone got picky with me. They said over 1,100,000 so they did not give the real wt number.

I wonder if we will see other 'growth' in baptisms or such. I think they are prepping their minds for the next statistics that replace the yearbook.

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Reg Pioneers went down around 50,000 ?

by Wakanda in

yesterday's wt study (june 17) said: .

records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.. well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. looks like they lost some!.

also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!.

Wakanda

Yesterday's wt study (June 17) said:

Records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.

Well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. Looks like they lost some!

Also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!

I still think they lie about their numbers, but I think they may have to stick to their current exaggeration percentages and lower the reported numbers.

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JWs & "generations"

by Magnum in

we all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.

but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.

his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.

Wakanda

I commiserate Magnum. They were and are so full of it; it is such a foreign thought to think about how confident they/we were in the 70s/80s (and before, but that was before me). That wt with it's confidence made mental illness and personality disorders like a hurricane makes tornados, though. It just makes me think of some real jerks, not you of course. But I digress. Here's hoping you are feeling a little better soon, and thank you for sharing your memories and current challenges... and those challenges are huge. Sorry.

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Story out of Sacramento demon possessed pioneers

by poopie in

anyone heard anything?.

Wakanda

Always look forward to poopie's posts.

Haven't heard about that story poopie.

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Reveal News Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses double down on Scripture used to ignore abuse by Trey Bundy

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-double-down-on-scripture-used-to-ignore-abuse/.

jehovah’s witnesses double down on scripture used to ignore abuse.

by trey bundy / november 9, 2017. gary breaux, a senior jehovah's witness official, speaks on the religion’s official internet video channel.

Wakanda

I thought his choice of colors he wore was curious, especially the peach tie. So, I finally looked up what the psychological associations according to the book Chronobiotic Nutrition. Hope you find it interesting.

White - impurity, false love, ethics, completion and holier-than-thou attitude.

Orange (closest to peach, imo) - sexual and reproductive traumas.

Lilac - parental disapproval of one's appearance or behavior.

There really isn't one for cream, but tan is: no-win condition, catch 22 situation, bondage to actions.

At first I thought, oh yeah, white, of course. That is because the first impressions of people wearing white is supposed to be much better than say, black. That little tidbit is from interpersonal communications class.

I think he just happened to choose that outfit, but may have known that white and cream was a good choice. Then again it reminds me of an out-there youtube talking about orange thread (or yarn?) in the background of a Sophia video, and that symbolizing something predatory in a sexual way.

He can where white all day, it ain't gonna help.

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YouTube-Cults & Extreme Beliefs Season 1 Episode 2 Review & Reaction | AfterBuzz TV Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mij9n2xubr0&feature=share.

afterbuzz tv — cults and extreme belief edition, is a weekly "after show" for fans of a&e's cults and extreme belief.

in this episode hosts juliet vibert, mina wahab, and taylor gates discuss episode 2 about jehovah's witnesses.

Wakanda

Still Totally ADD, I"m so sorry. I feel impelled to keep trying to expose this evil organization, no matter how small my part is. There is no excuse, and those ignorant assholes that allow this to continue need to go to jail. But, that still leaves tens of thousands like you and Romy. Absolutely tragic.

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BIG payout and an apology

by careful in

enlightening:.

http://time.com/5298057/minnesota-clergy-abuse-victims-catholic-churchs-second-largest-payout-ever/.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/31/minneapolis-st-paul-archdiocese-sexual-abuse-settlement/.

Wakanda

YES!

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The Life of an Ex Jehovah's Witness: Kicked out at 16, a Telltale Atheist Video

by Wakanda in

tears welled up a couple times... telltale is amazing.

simply amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9yuwezmx0q.

Wakanda

Tears welled up a couple times... Telltale is amazing. Simply amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YUWEZmx0Q

Regarding Patreon: He talked about it in one youtube and said if you want to donate every month he wants something small, like a dollar a month. He prefers lots of small donators compared to a few big ones. Smart. And I think: nice. He has 46K subscribers! OMG!

I can't wait till my husband is PIMO, then POMO (please universe, god or whoever!), and I will donate small amounts like a dollar or two to twenty or so activists! In the meantime I've actually sent cash in the mail (I've never done this before), and it worked! It worked, but someone complained in one of his or her videos about people asking if they received the donations (OMG please, you can't acknowledge a donation? A CASH IN THE MAIL DONATION? Same one can't bother to read the message, just reads the title, then gets it wrong in their video. Anyway, bitch bitch bitch, apologies). Another youtuber talked about my donation to him or her on a video, super nice, and makes me feel like I'm doing something from this place that feels very, um, stuck.

Thanks for reading!!! I digressed. Apologies.

Telltale is awesome!!! Watch his stuff!

Sincerely,

Wakanda, the superhero apostate, maybe, we'll see, can't say as much as I want cause I'm PIMO. :( But trust me, I'm awesome. Someday I will be DFed and tell all.

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How far will they go?

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

imagine: you have inside information that could destroy the watchtower corporations.. how far would they go to protect the assets?.

would they kill?

no strange question in blackwater etc days.. g..

Wakanda

would they kill?

The blood policy has killed way more than Jonestown. Also, lots of people kill themselves when learning the real truth, or from shunning.

I know you mean more cloak and dagger, mob action stuff, but that ain't their thing.

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Are most Jdubs narcicistic? Does the religion breed narcicistic behaviors?

by Whynot in

https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/05/15-narcissistic-religious-abuse-tactics/.

i read the above posted article and it made me wonder how many narcicistic people join the borg because it fits well with their personality.

i also wonder if being indoctrinated makes you become narcicistic.

Wakanda

Yes and yes, like Dub said.

When going through attacks by narcissists where you are trying to explain yourself it is important to remember that to a narcissist feelings are facts. They will always turn things around and put you on the defensive no matter how horrible their own behavior was/is. I learned, but have not had a chance to practice yet, to say:

1) You are entitled to your opinion.

or

2) I'm sorry that you feel that way, but you are entitled to your opinion.

or my favorite:

3) I disagree with that, but you are entitled to your feelings. (I would love saying that to an uber Dub male.)

I learned it from a youtube entitled Never Explain to a Narcissist. The Narc may still engage and fight, but it takes the fuel away.

The narcissist needs a supply, and those come from co-dependents and empaths, but I'm an amateur, a co-dependent that has noted narc behaviors in herself, and slight empath. WT makes narcissists, and the co-dependents and empaths that feed the personality disorder. The men fit the narc roles better, and the women fit the co-dependent roles better. Feel free to correct me, if you think I'm wrong. Of course, many people will naturally disagree with the existence of empaths.

Thanks for the book suggestion Dub; I will check out The Narcissistic Family!