Zeb I agree with the fact that they all seem to run on the same script. And yesterday I tried my damndest to cheer these two up but nothing seems to work.
His dad is a long time elder who is in constant pain from a long life of hard work. This elder now can hardly do anything without being in severe pain. I told the son that his dad has lived a long life and he has a great family. He should be proud of that and reflect on the good he has done. (Although he wasted a lot of it in the org)
These people's misery doesn't affect me personally but I do feel sorry for them. (Oxymoron)