I think that at its simplest science is just about trying to find out how things work, asking questions and seeing if the facts support what you believe or not. That seems a worthwhile endeavour. For example finding out a little bit how the brain works, so that someone with schizophrenia can be treated rather than being burned at the stake because people think the are possessed by demons seen like a bit of progress. There was a time when everybody walked by faith trusting everything religious leaders taught them without question, these times were called the dark ages.
Posts by Annon
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50The wonder of scientific research
by amicabl inthis has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.
there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.
nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.
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Things I Cant Stand Since Leaving Watchtower
by pale.emperor inwhat a breath a fresh air to be free of watchtower.
now i can finally rant about the things i put up with that i'd never put up with now.. in no particular order:.
little kids in suits.
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Annon
I could not stand the hypocrisy, such as elders who never speak to you at a meeting suddenly wanting to give you a shepherding call because they care for you so much. Strangely this caring often developed a week before the C.O. was visiting and disappeared the day after he left.
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Favorite Quotations from Movies
by compound complex in"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.
now you will have peace for eternity.
" -- maleva, the wolf man.
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Annon
Anytime I think about J.W. meetings I remember the quote from Madagascar 2.
"Sorry do you mind going back, this is 1st class, it's nothing personal it's just that we are better than you"
- King Julian
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What exactly is the JANUARY 2018 WT trying to tell J.W.'s?
by The Fall Guy inthe needle has been stuck on the record for over 130 years - thanks to mr. russell and his successive cohorts:.
page 11, paragraph 19 - “as this system nears its end,....”.
page 13, paragraph 5 - “do my actions show that i truly believe that these are the last days and that the end of satan’s rule is near?”.
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Annon
"A WORLD does not end every day! Not since the great flood of Noah’s time has a “world” or system of things for governing the affairs of all mankind passed out of existence. But now, by occurrence of every detail of the great sign Jesus gave, we know that we face the imminent end of the present world system"
- Watchtower 1st December 1952 (p709)
Just as others have said it is easier to get scared sheep to do what they are told.
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Who is "the faithfully and discreet slave"?
by Counter-Watchtower inive asked my jw friends that 3 times and never got an answer.. and can someone explain the jw class system?
and or point me to info on it..
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Annon
So it used to be thousands of people (All anointed on earth) then it became 7 (The GB) Somebody miscounted big time. So I would take any other numbers they come up with, with a large pinch of salt.
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"The shootings in Las Vegas show how much we need God's Kingdom"
by Sour Grapes inmy jw wife, like all of us, was saddened by the senseless killings in nevada.
she said, "the shootings just shows how much we need god's kingdom.
" i replied, "yes if it was armageddon, jehovah wouldn't have left any survivors.
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Annon
Imagine two non J.W. twins are crossing the street, they are the same in every way. One gets killed when struck by a car, he will be resurrected into a paradise. Five seconds later armageddon starts and God destroys the other twin, he is gone forever. Something is not right with that belief. Getting everlasting life would depend on who stepped into the road first! (Or second)
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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer
by Edison Trent ina friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.
they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.
they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?
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Annon
I think what will happen is that the C.O. will still visit each congregation twice a year but he will do so invisibly. There will be lots of evidence of C.O. realities proving that he has actually visited the congregation, and of course hard cash will still be required, for his invisible upkeep.
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A "Three-fold cord"?
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know of the well used scripture that speaks of "a three-fold cord" in marriage.. sure, it is meant to indicate that any marriage that has "god" in it as the foundation of the couple's life will be successful.
but how often have we noticed that what it really means for witnesses is that the society, or the gb has the right to be an unwelcome and nosey intruder in the lives of couples.
every decision that family unit makes is influenced by the organisation.
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Annon
Good old king David must have had a 19 fold cord what with his 8 wives and a least 10 concubines.
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Shunning video questions
by poopie in1.if the parents were to have no contact with there grown daughter why was she still in the house,?
there were also not supposed to grieve like aarons household yet they appeared to be grieving.
3. aaron case is different in that his entire family was not included in the no grieving?
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Annon
Guess they cannot find anything in the New Testament to support the shunning doctrine so they mangle some Old Testament account. It is rather strange that God consumed or devoured Aaron's sons with fire and then three verses later they were carried away in there robes! Possibly they were wearing some kind of asbestos clothing. Never mind, some think that this ancient story is good enough to make you override your conscience and stop you answering a call from you own daughter/son whose life might be in danger. Help!
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"The purpose of reporting field service time is for encouragement"
by HereIgo ini was told this when i was an aspiring jw, aka unbaptized publisher.
the above explanation didn't make sense to me then and it never did make sense throughout my jw career.
over time, it appeared to me the real purpose of field service time reporting was to gauge one's spirituality and for the ceo *cough* co to make sure the elders were on top of things during his visit..
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Annon
I do not know how recording hours spent standing by a cart speaking to no one can be a measure of anything, except compliance with man made rules. Of course helping the elderly or any kind of real caring for others is not recorded, hence to expression "I can't visit that old sick sister/brother I need to get my time in" .