for reasons i have posted on another topic i have become involved with a study with a rather knowledgeable jw.
i try to stay clear of the scripture (im an atheist who have never read the bible so i have desided to agree with his interpretation of the scripture for the sake of argument, however to say that when it come to interpretations of the bible, there are also many other ways to think about it, and it require significant research for me to commit to one particular view).
we talked about how you know jehovahs witness have the truth and ofcourse the conversation went into the usual topics like using the name jehovah (however, it did end where i felt it should, on jesus selection in 1918, more on that on another thread).
Terry, I was a JW arguing with Christians on a creationist website. God used scripture to get me out of that cult and into Jesus. Scriptures work. My husband, myself, two of my relatives and one of my best friends are all proof, along with countless others.
Shades.
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
Just an FYI: I had no idea until just now that anything was going on with people disagreeing with SA on other threads.
for reasons i have posted on another topic i have become involved with a study with a rather knowledgeable jw.
i try to stay clear of the scripture (im an atheist who have never read the bible so i have desided to agree with his interpretation of the scripture for the sake of argument, however to say that when it come to interpretations of the bible, there are also many other ways to think about it, and it require significant research for me to commit to one particular view).
we talked about how you know jehovahs witness have the truth and ofcourse the conversation went into the usual topics like using the name jehovah (however, it did end where i felt it should, on jesus selection in 1918, more on that on another thread).
What Name did Jesus Christ call on to be saved from death by resurrection before he died?
Jehovah.
Scripture?
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
some people say "let go, let God"
But that is assuming God works without, not within.
Wrong. When I said that it is because I apply these scriptures to you, to SA, to every believer. I trust that I don't need to overly concern myself with correcting others. I simply disagree, plant a seed and trust in God at work in your life in her life... I can even trust God to work in the lives of unbelievers. I don't need to continue debating until you see my point. I can let go and trust that He is in control of all things.
Colossians 1:27 And this is the secret: Christ lives in you.
1 John 2:27 But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:6 I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow.
I am sure to believe God can work the will of God through my measley flesh it's not much of a jump
I agree. This applies to all who are being led by God's Spirit. When I left the JW organization it was a result of admitting I was wrong in everything and I had to trust Christ to lead me. As my one and only mediator. In fact I said, "I will never listen to those men again, Lord, only you." I allow His spirit to lead my in everything. I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength. Do not lean on your own understanding but in ALL your ways take notice of Him. He leads me to the scriptures I need. He leads me in my understanding of them. He shows me when people agree with Him, when their council is coming from the Spirit, and when it isn't. He teaches me how to show my love, how to be a parent, how to be a friend, how to get through days of pain and sickness with grace. I am nothing without Him. I am everything because of Him.
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
You are wrong about everything concerning me and my motives. My husband and I are one in the Spirit. I rely on the Spirit more than anything in my life. He leads me.
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
I don't hate Shelby at all and I am very offended that anyone said such a thing, and especially without PMs to clear it up.
Why is it that Shelby can admonish others but others are expected not to admonish her? Is it not, both coming from and going to Shelby, out of love?
Why is it that Shelby, Tammy and N. Drew never seem to admonish or even disagree with eachother, good grief, I disagree with my husband, and my mentors!
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
If there are different gifts, SA, why do you seem to put down anyone who does not have the same gift as you?
for reasons i have posted on another topic i have become involved with a study with a rather knowledgeable jw.
i try to stay clear of the scripture (im an atheist who have never read the bible so i have desided to agree with his interpretation of the scripture for the sake of argument, however to say that when it come to interpretations of the bible, there are also many other ways to think about it, and it require significant research for me to commit to one particular view).
we talked about how you know jehovahs witness have the truth and ofcourse the conversation went into the usual topics like using the name jehovah (however, it did end where i felt it should, on jesus selection in 1918, more on that on another thread).
I have no idea what designs is talking about.
for reasons i have posted on another topic i have become involved with a study with a rather knowledgeable jw.
i try to stay clear of the scripture (im an atheist who have never read the bible so i have desided to agree with his interpretation of the scripture for the sake of argument, however to say that when it come to interpretations of the bible, there are also many other ways to think about it, and it require significant research for me to commit to one particular view).
we talked about how you know jehovahs witness have the truth and ofcourse the conversation went into the usual topics like using the name jehovah (however, it did end where i felt it should, on jesus selection in 1918, more on that on another thread).
Yes, those were very good points Psac. I do not know why I thought this was a new thread. I went back to see who bumped it, and I guess it was me. hmmm... I do think it will help a friend of mine though, so it is all good. :)
for reasons i have posted on another topic i have become involved with a study with a rather knowledgeable jw.
i try to stay clear of the scripture (im an atheist who have never read the bible so i have desided to agree with his interpretation of the scripture for the sake of argument, however to say that when it come to interpretations of the bible, there are also many other ways to think about it, and it require significant research for me to commit to one particular view).
we talked about how you know jehovahs witness have the truth and ofcourse the conversation went into the usual topics like using the name jehovah (however, it did end where i felt it should, on jesus selection in 1918, more on that on another thread).
Geneisis 18:2 When he raised his eyes, then he looked and there three men were standing some distance from him. When he caught sight of them he began running to meet them from the entrance of the tent and proceeded to bow down to the earth. 3 Then he said: “Jehovah, if, now, I have found favor in your eyes, please do not pass by your servant. 4 Let a little water be taken, please, and YOU must have YOUR feet washed. Then recline under the tree. 5 And let me get a piece of bread, and refresh YOUR hearts. Following that, YOU can pass on, because that is why YOU have passed this way to YOUR servant.” At this they said: “All right. You may do just as you have spoken.”
Genesis 19:1 Now the two angels arrived at Sod´om by evening, 10 So the men thrust out their hands and brought Lot in to them, into the house, and they shut the door. 11 But they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, from the least to the greatest, so that they were wearing themselves out trying to find the entrance. 12 Then the men said to Lot: “Do you have anyone else here? Son-in-law and your sons and your daughters and all who are yours in the city, bring out of the place! 17 as soon as they had brought them forth to the outskirts, he began to say: “Escape for your soul! Do not look behind you and do not stand still in all the District! Escape to the mountainous region for fear you may be swept away!”
18 Then Lot said to them: “Not that, please, Jehovah! 19 Please, now, your servant has found favor in your eyes so that you are magnifying your loving-kindness, which you have exercised with me to preserve my soul alive, but I—I am not able to escape to the mountainous region for fear calamity may keep close to me and I certainly die. 20 Please, now, this city is nearby to flee there and it is a small thing. May I, please, escape there—is it not a small thing?—and my soul will live on.” 21 So he (Jehovah) said to him: “Here I do show you consideration to this extent also, by my not overthrowing the city of which you have spoken. 22 Hurry! Escape there, because I am not able to do a thing until your arriving there!” That is why he called the name of the city Zo´ar.
23 The sun had gone forth over the land when Lot arrived at Zo´ar. 24 Then Jehovah made it rain sulphur and fire from Jehovah, from the heavens, upon Sod´om and upon Go·mor´rah.
What is my point with all of this? Jesus is God (John 20:28, Hebrews 1 and 2). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4). The Father is God (Ephesians 4:6).
In the OT, Jehovah is the name of God.
In the NT, Jesus makes his Father's name known without ever using it. How does Jesus do this? Look at his name. The name Jesus in Greek = Yehoshuah in Hebrew = YHWH + Salvation
