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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  cappytan

  From the article: The events date back to 2001...

  That much money could very well have been bilked over that long of a period.  

  170,000,000 / 13 = 13,076,923 per year.

  13,076,923 / 1,300 = 10,000 +/- average. 

  Factor in that perhaps there were some brothers that were exorbitantly richer than others and may have contributed large sums of money, or there may have been folks that died that had the "hospital" fund as their life insurance beneficiary.

  Regardless, it seems plausible for this to be true. 

  If it is true, I'm sure there will be more said about it and more will come out.

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  EDIT: Well, took me a while to do the math, and during that time, y'all ended up saying the same things.
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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  cappytan

  Simon said: Wow, that's quite a sizeable conspiracy - not just 2 or 3 in a single congregation.
  Just re-read the article. 

  
  

  Loose translation: 

  
  

  ...more than 170 million euros collected, based on false promises, among more than 1,300 members throughout Spain. 

  This may very well have been on a circuit-wide level. 

  
  
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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  cappytan

  These men are appointed by Holy Spirit,

  Here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php

  Basically, if you don't know Spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what I've read)

  A group of 14 elders, under false pretenses, asked the congregation for donations to build a bloodless hospital in Spain that wouldn't commit the sin of administering blood transfusions.

  From the article, I can't tell if it's 14 elders in one congregation or 14 elders combined from several congregations.

  However, the article states that they collected over 170 million Euros. (The equivalent of over 190 million dollars at today's exchange rate.)

  They then spirited away some 80 million of the funds to banks in Switzerland.

  ...............

  LURKERS: Wouldn't Jehovah read these brothers heart condition before appointing them through his Holy Spirit? Think about that the next time you talk about how wonderful your elders are.

  
  

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  EDIT: Just a side thought, 190 million dollars could pay for a lot of "needed" Kingdom Halls. 
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  The "martydom" of witnesses!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  arrrghh...it amazes me!.

  i have just seen more witnesses from "my" congregation manning the "literature carts".. it is over 40c / 100f temp, with very high humidity as well... and there they are...in the heat...like martyrs....earning "god points".. they are being ignored by the very few passers by....all of whom are trying to get out of the heat.. what is the point!?!

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  The main thing is that there is a massive total number of hours to print in the yearbook.

  I imagine a time will come that you can count time on your commute just by having a JW.ORG bumper sticker.
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  At the meeting ... Ugh

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least i have this forum.

  is there a shorthand for referring to this website?

  saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..

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  So, how tight were your pants?

  haha! 
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  At the meeting ... Ugh

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least i have this forum.

  is there a shorthand for referring to this website?

  saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..

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  cappytan

  Now I have been deleted!...hmmm food for thought!

  Did they give you a reason for the deletion? Just curious.
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  At the meeting ... Ugh

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least i have this forum.

  is there a shorthand for referring to this website?

  saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..

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  cappytan

  Cappy, u don't have to reduce ur commenting. In fact, it would be great if you could find opportunities to give some thought-provoking comments that might help others to open their eyes 

  Hurly Spirit must have been flowing tonight because during Bible Highlights my hand was up the entire time to point out Judges 1:19, but I wasn't called on that time  
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  The "martydom" of witnesses!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  arrrghh...it amazes me!.

  i have just seen more witnesses from "my" congregation manning the "literature carts".. it is over 40c / 100f temp, with very high humidity as well... and there they are...in the heat...like martyrs....earning "god points".. they are being ignored by the very few passers by....all of whom are trying to get out of the heat.. what is the point!?!

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    Village Idiot6 minutes ago

    Where is this at?

    
    

  Must be Down Under this time of night. 
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  At the meeting ... Ugh

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least i have this forum.

  is there a shorthand for referring to this website?

  saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..

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  cappytan

  DONT answer more that four times, or it looks false and kind of "over-righteous"

  It's so hard when you're used to being that bail out brother. I wouldn't have given that many comments if people were actually paying attention and raising their hands. 

  I mean, what does it say about the congregation when the undercover apostate has to answer because the REAL Witnesses won't raise their hands?
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  At the meeting ... Ugh

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at least i have this forum.

  is there a shorthand for referring to this website?

  saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..

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  cappytan

  My problem with commenting is that it's second nature. My Dad was the Watchtower conductor my entire life growing up, so I have this knack and habit of commenting on the fly to bail out the brother when no one has their hand up. 

  It's a hard habit to break.