cappytan
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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Londo111's systematic destruction of the"I am not a crook""We are not a cult" article on JW dot ORG should be it's own thread. That was beautiful. -
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Make sure you CLAM up before you go to the CLAM beeting. Otherwise, you might say something apostate. -
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Stargate SG1: False Gods, False Religion
by JWchange inhas anyone watched this scifi series?
has it helped anyone wake up to ttatt?
i woke up many years ago, however this incredible series reinforces my beliefs about religion.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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I take your point about the criminal element Duggan typifies LUHE but the difference in the UK is that society isn't saturated with weapons to the point where anyone with the smallest grievance can start shooting.
I agree with this assessment.
Unfortunately, the level of firearm proliferation of in the U.S. would render any kind of sweeping ban on possession unenforceable. Sales would be easier to enforce. But, as I mentioned, the vast majority of privately owned firearms in the U.S. are not registered. Constitutionally, a police officer would have to have probable cause or a warrant to go into a home and search it for firearms.
Criminals and unstable crazies that have guns would still have their guns after the ban and you wouldn't know about their guns until after they've done something grave with them.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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cappytan
Why someone disliked FMF's post, I don't know. Do you disagree with the facts and analysis?
If so, speak up.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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cappytan
But lots of gun crime occurs when it's the case of an illegal weapon too.
Is a gun ban really practical and how will it be policed and enforced?This is a very good point.
If you want to eliminate mass rampage shootings in the US like the recent Oregon attack, yes, a gun ban could and likely would drastically reduce their occurrence since many times the rampage shooter seems to acquire his weapons in the days or months leading up to the attack.
However, this would not end gun violence across the board and won't necessarily end rampage killings as a simple google search can show you how to make black powder from common household and hardware store items. The powder can then be made into an IED. America has a problem with crazy people, and crazy people will find a way.
There are over 300 million guns (and thats a very conservative estimate) owned by private citizens in the U.S. Only a small percentage of them are registered. It would be virtually impossible to collect them all and confiscate them all. At best, only upstanding law-abiding citizens would turn them in. The criminal element, of which a vast majority of gun deaths are attributed to, would have no reason to turn in their arms. And the extreme whack-job anti-government white supremacists wouldn't likely turn theirs in either.
300 million+ guns, 11,000+ gun deaths in 2013. If a separate gun was used for each death, only 0.004% of private citizen's guns were used. In other words, 99.996% of guns owned by Americans were not used to kill anyone.
Gun crimes, especially mass killings, get a lot of press and cause a lot of emotions. And the victims of those crimes deserve justice.
But the stats just don't back up the claim that the cause and reason those crimes were committed was because of a gun culture. If that were true, the number of deaths would be a lot higher.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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cappytan
This is a topic for another thread, but I sincerely believe that Russia could have defeated Germany on its own. In fact, they contributed more to the war effort on the German front than the US did.
However, without the US keeping Japan busy, it likely would have been a different story.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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cappytan
Many good ideas have been put forth in this thread. Some I agree with. Some I think are overboard.
The fact of the matter remains that in the current political climate, you would be hard pressed to pass some sweeping form of federal legislation.
On the federal level, if any steps are to be taken to solve this issue of crazy people getting guns, there needs to be baby steps. Any legislation that puts out a ton of regulations in one fell swoop is doomed to fail.
Honestly, the low hanging fruit on the subject of this thread is requiring gun owners to secure their arms and penalizing them severely if they do not. I think even most gun nuts would agree on that. And I bet that if you don't include any other regulations in that legislation that the NRA would get behind it. Traditionally, they're pro gun-safety. Currently, they're run by a bunch of nut jobs and it's only getting worse.
How do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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cappytan
There is absolutely NO reason to own an assault rifle
How do you define assault rifle?
Because I can think of plenty of hunting situations where a semi-auto rifle is useful. (Predator, Hog and Invasive species.)
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An 11-year-old boy is in custody for murder for shooting and killing an eight-year-old neighbour girl with a shotgun . . .
by nicolaou in.
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because she would not show him her puppies.. nobody has to tell you what country this happened in, you already know.. source.
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cappytan
Good question, having more people ask it would be an excellent start. How about a ban on assault and high capacity weaponry? What about a ban on using weapons in public places, in other words the use of guns is restricted to shooting clubs and in areas designated for hunting.
I'm a Brit' who's never even seen a gun in all my 51 years so I know I don't have the answers. America needs to have and adult dialogue and sort it's own problem out before it leaps the Atlantic...Excellent responses.
In regards to the ban on using weapons in public places except shooting clubs, that is already illegal just about everywhere. Now there are some places where it's legal to carry weapons openly in public places. Banning that, I have no problem with, and I think most liberal and moderate conservatives would feel the same way. It's only the most extreme of the extremists that think open carry is a good idea.
On to the ban on assault and high capacity weaponry. The only reason I balk at that is because I know how guns work. And I know how politicians work. They ban things like barrel shrouds and pistol grips which do nothing for how deadly a gun is. They limit magazines to 10 rounds, not realizing that it takes maybe a day's worth of practice to learn how to eject and insert a new magazine in 1-2 seconds efficiently. I don't think a ban on assault and high-capacity weapons would be effective in curtailing violence.
I remember the last Assault Weapons Ban...all the features they banned were cosmetic. It basically boiled down to, "If your rifle is semi-automatic, it can't have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, can't have a pistol grip, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel..." The guns that were legal shot the same bullets at the same rate of fire, but just looked different. And like I said, the magazine issue isn't going to prevent crime or mass killings when all it takes is a second or two to swap an empty magazine with a full one.
Banning all guns will help prevent the severity and frequency of rampage killings. But it won't prevent violent crime or inner city gun violence. Those guys already have the guns and are already breaking the law.