Posts by cappytan

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

cappytan

Isn't the whole idea or rule of "burden of proof" equally as much man-made as atheists claim the Bible is?
Why should I follow YOUR man-made rules instead of any other man-made rules?

Let's pretend for the sake of discussion that I believe in Unicorns.

Can you prove me wrong? Can you prove to me that Unicorns don't exist? Of course not! You can't prove a negative. All you can do is point out to me that there is no evidence to show that Unicorns exist.

If I were to continue to insist that they in fact do exist, wouldn't you reasonably ask me to provide evidence for my claim?

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Hoax, Scam, Bridge, Talking Serpents

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

hoax, scam, bridge, talking serpents .

most assuredly this scripture was applicable: (2 thessalonians 2:1, 2) .

"however, brothers, respecting the presence of our lord jesus christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of jehovah is here.

cappytan

Frank: I might need some context to understand this post.

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The Verdict: God is Not Good.

by cappytan in

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friends

not sure if this video has been posted before here or not, but it is a powerful scene.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irfn2gdi.

i haven't watched the entire movie yet, but from this scene alone, i will be..

cappytan

Not sure if this video has been posted before here or not, but it is a powerful scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

I haven't watched the entire movie yet, but from this scene alone, I will be.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

cappytan

Fisherman: One cannot prove a negative. All that can be done is to report a lack of evidence for the positive.

Either the Bible's being divinely inspired has evidence in favor of it, or it lacks evidence.

If one's position is that it is NOT divinely inspired, they do not have to present evidence. The "evidence" of a negative is by definition a lack of evidence.

Most of us exJW's have read the Bible multiple times and looked for the evidence ourselves.

Your position, unless I am mistaken, is that the Bible is inspired of God.

If so, present the evidence in favor of that assertion.

For something as important and universally impactful as the Bible being the inspired word of God, would you not agree that the evidence must be clear and empirical?

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

cappytan

Just because you claim that you have not seen anyone else say it, does not mean that someone else has not, does it?

Oh, so you mean to tell me, that just because someone or something claims something is true, it doesn't mean it's necessarily true? Wow!

Now, take that principle and apply it to the subject of this thread.

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The Bible is NOT Error-Free

by FusionTheism in

for many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.

but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?

why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?

cappytan

Cofty aka Vivian? And I am not the only poster on this Forum that has stated this suspicion.

Yes. Yes you are. You are the only one I've ever seen make that accusation.

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The Confederate Flag

by Simon in

the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

cappytan

Village Idiot: if you can't see the distinction between the two statements, then there's no point in discussing this further.

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Hitler admits the truth about the truth....

by _Morpheus in

submitted by the governing body for your approval!

credit freemindfade with on the script.... http://youtu.be/ldiwqqbcd5w.

cappytan

Dammit! I started working on it earlier today. Thanks for the head's up. :P

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The Confederate Flag

by Simon in

the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

cappytan

Ending slavery was everybody's business.

I didn't say it wasn't.

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The Confederate Flag

by Simon in

the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

cappytan

...the same basic use of imagery used by the same type of mentality as the neo-nazi knuckle-heads of Europe.

It really is sad that the imagery of the confederate flag has been commandeered by hate groups.

In my mind, it's a piece of history, and promotes that heritage of telling Washington to mind their own business.

In the 80's my favorite TV show was The Dukes of Hazzard.

Whenever I see the confederate flag, the last thing I think about is hate and slavery.

If I ever get a 1969 Dodge Charger, it's gonna have the General Lee paint job and that has nothing to do with hate.