wow- did anyone see the Amish on Oprah? Anymore info on ex-members?
check this site for some info:
wow- did anyone see the amish on oprah?
anymore info on ex-members?.
check this site for some info:.
wow- did anyone see the Amish on Oprah? Anymore info on ex-members?
check this site for some info:
does anybody else deal with this kind of situation?
my current partner of 2 years is very cute, sexy, and exotic.
great, right?
wow
does anybody else deal with this kind of situation?
my current partner of 2 years is very cute, sexy, and exotic.
great, right?
Ha Ha Lark- believe it or not I actualy considered that. I used to purposly avoid getting serious with hot chicks because they were often a lot of trouble. But she's actual nice and hot, so I took it to the next level ;-).
Thanks for the responses all.- J
september 25, 2002 .
mailing address: .
canada .
I sent this fax:
September 25, 2002
Mailing Address:
X
Canada
E-mail:
To whom it may concern
As pertaining to instructions from the media relations/researchers department, I am submitting this written request for copies of reference material. I am a sociology student at the University of Victoria, completing a research project on the history of Jehovahs Witnesses and medicine. In the interest of accuracy, I would like to obtain photocopies of the following reference works directly from your archives:
The Golden Age, Feb 4 1931 p. 293-4 The Sacredness of Human Blood
Watchtower 1967 November 15 pp.702-4 Questions from Readers
Watchtower 1980 March 15 p.31 Questions from Readers
Please contact me if there is a charge for this service.
Thanking you in advance-
I waited 2 months with no response, giving up hope. Yesterday I got this e-mail:
Dear X
My name is Harry Lund. I have the materials you requested from the
Watchtower plus some information that we supply to Health Care professionals
in the Victoria area. I am a member of the local Hospital Liaison Committee
of Jehovah's Winesses and coordinate any meetings with those interested in
our religious stand on transfusion practises in medicine. I would be pleased
to meet with you at your convenience. I live close to you on the other side
of the Jubilee Hospital at 2660 Richmond Ave. Please contact me by phone at X or by email at X to arrange a time. I will be in a conference this weekend from 9 am to 4 pm on Sat and Sun. I work from 10 to 6:00 pm each day of the week.
May I thank-you for this opportunity to explain our position accurately and
first hand.
yours sincerely
Harry Lund
PS There is no charge for this service. It is free and without any obligation.
What should I do?
A couple of ideas Ive had. Originally I just wanted to view the copies, but this may be an opportunity to have a full discussion. Or even better yet, I could turn this into a minor media event at the university by engaging him in a dialog in front of a panel.
If youd like to read the preamble to the letters, see below.
OK, finding out about this Golden Age article was what originally got me fired up about the WTS 6 months ago. I decided to research it, taking great pains to remain as objective and info-oriented researcher as possible, throughout. I contacted a local hall and they said these articles were too old to carry, and bounced me to HQ. So I called HQ in Brooklyn and asked if this article was real. They bounced me to the Writing dept. and I talked to a guy who had the article right there in front of him. They wouldn't comment on the article. So I asked if the article took a negative view of vaccines, quoting
Vaccinations are responsible for the spread of "demonism" and sexual immorality. Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows the seed of syphilis, cancers, escema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccination is a crime, an outrage and a delusion.... Vaccination is a direct violation of the everlasting covenant that God made with Noah after the flood... Vacination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox.
He said he needed to study it further and he couldn't comment. I tried many ways to get info, but got the run around. The amazing thing was that info in the articles that casted the WTS in a good light was jumping to his finger tips. He said that medicine was different then (Golden Age days), and that the "cannibal" reference was from a scientific source and organ transplants were not reliable at that time. These were the only comments I could get. Any request for originals had to be in writing. So I sent a fax. Go to top ;-)
One last note- the WTS approach to info exchange is highly unusual. No electronic exchange. And getting library reference material needs a liaison? Imagine if they had to go through that at the public or any other library to confirm references. I think we would have to go back to the dark ages to find such a policy on public information. -J
Good one Matty!
i'm thinking about taking a break from this place for awhile.. one of the reasons i came here was because of the way jws have been so mean to me.
i don't like to see people be mean to each other.. lately i have been seeing people i care about being very mean to each other and me.
i just can't handle that.. please don't be mean.
Hi Elsewhere-
This is the first time we've 'talked', but I think I know what you mean. The first time I started logging on here I was a bit shocked by some personal (not religion oriented) wars going on. Not cool. Not mature. I thought we have all gone through enough to get here, why do some fight? Not long ago, many of us were crushed under a structure of falsehood. Some didn't make it out alive. Why should the survivors fight each other? Isn't there a greater evil out there? Anyway, I think lot of people don't apreciate this place. Mabey they spend so much time here they take it for granted. What if it folded up? What if you were isolated again? I bet you'd give anything to have contact with your worst enemy on this board again. My thoughts.
Anyway Elsewhere, if you leave and want to talk, my mail is open. -J
i work in the lending industry, im an account rep for a wholesale mortgage bank.
royal bank of canada in newyork.
edited by - hamptonite21 on 12 november 2002 22:40:6.
Hey Alligator!
What part of Japan, what kind of ESL? I was stationed in Okayama '99-'00. I'm back home now bumping up my credentials. I'll be back in July. Drop me a mail if you get a chance.
Marcos-
I've practiced Aikido in Canada and Japan. What's the name/locations of your school chain?
http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/wt_evil.html
anybody know what happened to this site?
i saw it around august, and then it dissapeared.
Ahmen!
does anybody else deal with this kind of situation?
my current partner of 2 years is very cute, sexy, and exotic.
great, right?
Does anybody else deal with this kind of situation?
My current partner of 2 years is very cute, sexy, and exotic. Great, right? Except that we're becoming social recluses. Almost everytime we go out, someone hits on her. Even with friends, they can't help but ogle. The effect is that I don't really have the desire to go out anymore. I don't even feel like getting together with some friends. Any thoughts? -J
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url to the story http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?brd=1614&dept_id=161052&newsid=6011345&pag=461&rfi=9.
Is there anything we can do to help? -J