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  Ex JW Down and Outs.

  by refiners fire in

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  a large proportion of the ex jws i know and stay in contact with are pretty much down and out.. i stay in contact with 4 from my past.. out of the 4:.

  3 of them are long term unemployed.. 3 of those have psychiatric problems.. 2 of them dont have a stable relationship.. only 1 of them is a reasonable financial success.. my perception of the ex dub world is one of destroyed lives and, too a large degree, hopelessness.i base this perception on those ex dubs i know.

  course, they are all hard core apostates.

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  <~~~~looks around nervously...."I'm glad I don't have any if those problems"..

  ~Noi~
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  Are Jw's the only ones with apostates....

  by VioletAnai in

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  who viciously attack the teachings and beliefs of their resigned religion?.

  i was thinking of this last night....i have never in my life seen a movement so big as the apostates against jw's..... no other religion has displayed this....usually people just quietly leave and get on with their lives and there is no anomosity...even if they have been wronged by their religion.... but with jw's it's different...it's an all out and out attack on anyone and everyone who has something positive to say.... makes me believe the bible and the jw's even more...being here is setting the doubt in my mind right....

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  Violet..
  I wish you nothing but happiness in the Watchtower Bible Tract and Zombies Society.
  Go for it girl.
  I however don't think it would be right if you plan on turning in the time you spend here on your field service report.
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  Hyghlandyrs Four Pillars, his Hygh Geas.

  by Hyghlandyr in

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  some of you know that i have stated i am amoral.

  that means that i have no moral system.

  no ethical system either.

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  mpatrick..

  Sean Michael is just tooooo adorable..good job.
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  preventing baptism of minors

  by og in

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  here is the situation: my wife is a very faithful true believer (and a wonderful person, i will add, who really wants to do what's right) i have been da'd about a year, and we have 2 children.

  our oldest is 13, and really buys into the witness line ( as, of course, i professed to until last summer) and i am fairly sure she is considering baptism.

  here is my question: as one half of her parents, is there any legal doctrine that would allow me to prevent her baptism until she is 18?

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  if she gets baptized, moves out, and is faithful I'm gonna lose a lot years that way as well, wouldn't you say? What with her refusing to speak to me and all?

  {{{og}}}....I have to admit that I had not even thought about that. That is another thing you may want to bring up to her. I really hope the best for you and your family.
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  preventing baptism of minors

  by og in

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  here is the situation: my wife is a very faithful true believer (and a wonderful person, i will add, who really wants to do what's right) i have been da'd about a year, and we have 2 children.

  our oldest is 13, and really buys into the witness line ( as, of course, i professed to until last summer) and i am fairly sure she is considering baptism.

  here is my question: as one half of her parents, is there any legal doctrine that would allow me to prevent her baptism until she is 18?

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  Noi says:

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  You have to realize she may never come to the understanding that you have. Is it worth a possible damaged relationship in trying to control the situation?
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  my response: Maybe?

  I don't mean to sound disrespectful but it makes me wonder by your responses if you even have your daughters best interest in view or if this crusade is really for you to prove a point?

  BTW, I also have a daughter that is 13.
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  preventing baptism of minors

  by og in

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  here is the situation: my wife is a very faithful true believer (and a wonderful person, i will add, who really wants to do what's right) i have been da'd about a year, and we have 2 children.

  our oldest is 13, and really buys into the witness line ( as, of course, i professed to until last summer) and i am fairly sure she is considering baptism.

  here is my question: as one half of her parents, is there any legal doctrine that would allow me to prevent her baptism until she is 18?

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  og..

  It's possible that could work..and possible it may not. Now is the time you want to be in her life. I don't know what kind of relationship you have with her but I do know that whatever happens now if she takes your interference the wrong way then you could loose many valuable years with her. There may never come that time when she appreciates what was done through interference.

  You said that she is already quick to tears now, that is a clue within itself. It would be better to have years with her now and later. She is at a time when she really needs you...these are crucial years in her life.

  You have to realize she may never come to the understanding that you have. Is it worth a possible damaged relationship in trying to control the situation?

  My Father opposed (I'm not talking major opposition..but just enough) my mother and I can tell you that it did affect me. I did not realize what he was doing or my other family members until last year. My parents did eventually end up in divorce and we moved out of state. I lost my whole lifetime with him... years I'll never be able to get back for me or for him.

  ~Noi~
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  preventing baptism of minors

  by og in

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  here is the situation: my wife is a very faithful true believer (and a wonderful person, i will add, who really wants to do what's right) i have been da'd about a year, and we have 2 children.

  our oldest is 13, and really buys into the witness line ( as, of course, i professed to until last summer) and i am fairly sure she is considering baptism.

  here is my question: as one half of her parents, is there any legal doctrine that would allow me to prevent her baptism until she is 18?

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  I can understand how this would be a worry for you..once you're baptized it's as if belonging to the Mafia once your in you can't leave without consequences.

  Legally I don't know if there is anything you can do. I really don't think that would be the route to take.

  If your daughter is buying into this as you say she is. She would most likely think any interference from you would be a form of persecution and may make her feel stronger in her convictions not to mention could damage your relationship.

  I suggest backing her up in whatever decision she makes and then just be there if the dominoes ever start to fall. I know as a parent we want to protect our children from any form of hurt but sometimes the best form of teaching is to let one make mistakes..it not only can build strength but can make a more caring and understanding person of them. Living life is a form of trial & error something that helps us learn along the way

  There is really no way we can make another see the org. for what it is until they are ready to see it for themselves.

  I do suggest asking her thought provoking questions that would make her want to dig in deep and research things a little more. Talk to her about what that dedication means ..not in terms of serving God, but how it will affect her by doing it through man.

  Whatever happens I wish you luck and again stress...Just be there for her.

  ~Noi~
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  Do You Know My Underwear Size

  by writerpen in

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  okay - it amazes me the information i've seen you guys get about people on this board.

  dawn started the post, "to lotus - what needs to change.

  " sf responded to that post by exposing lotus through activity on another website.

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  I always thought underwear was for guys and panties were for girls...

  ~Noi~
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  Do You Know My Underwear Size

  by writerpen in

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  okay - it amazes me the information i've seen you guys get about people on this board.

  dawn started the post, "to lotus - what needs to change.

  " sf responded to that post by exposing lotus through activity on another website.

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  writerpen..

  Now that you have us thinking about your underwear..I'm wondering Boxers or Briefs?????????
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  I just got ripped off for two grand :-(

  by Mindchild in

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  sometime yesterday or this morning, i was ripped off for $2,000 in cash.

  the money was in an unlocked attache case inside my private room of a shared home.. i kept about $5,000 in cash in my attache case inside my bedroom.

  yesterday, i spent about $2,000 of that money buying textbooks (this is my occupation), leaving $3,000 in two envelopes, one having $1,000 and the other $2,000.

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  ballistic,

  It's the American way.