Posts by bildad

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The Confessed Pedophile Who Raped Me Is Going To Be Made A Elder Again, Need Help Please!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

years ago you read my horror stories about being raped by a jw.

i was nine years old when this took place, now the man has been getting all his works in order.

what do i do to stop the seventy-year old pedophile from getting his position back?

How do you know he is going to be made an elder again?

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Going to Kingdom Hall for first time

by InChristAlone in

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since my family is out of town, and i am alone this weekend, i have decided to attend this once to see these things for myself.

have no fear, i have absolutely no interest in joining.

my goal is simply to better understand how to reach those who are on the inside, and i feel i could better do that by observing it.

You will no doubt find some very sincere people. What are your relatives like? That is likely what you will find. I actually believe you will find some people who are trying to live as genuine Christians there. On the other hand you might find some who are struggling like many of us on this site. They might really become friends in time.

Doctrinally, they will no doubt be different from what you believe, but you are no doubt already aware of that. Just be your Christian self and have an open mind towards others.

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Ex-Apostate experiences?

by zound in

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expanding on a point someone made in another thread:.

just wondering if anyone ever heard any experiences at assemblies or khalls of apostates that went back to become an upstanding jw.

or even just experiences related amongst jw's.

bildad

Desirous of Change. ....you have hit very close to home for me.

I was visited recently by an 80+ yr old Brother. He was genuinely concerned about me. I told him that I was very upset about all the people I taught things to, while I was pioneering, serving where need greater and as an. Elder, that we no longer believe is truth.

One time I was asked by the Org to represent our Circuit as the News Service Overseer to go on TV and give short presentation of our beliefs. I based my comments on Luke 21. I told this Brother that everything I said on that program WE NO LONGER BELIEVE! That really bothers me.

I went a little further and even asked: "Doesn't it bother you that we told people so many things that were not true?

He said: "You are just more sensitive than I am I guess."

It is hard for me to get over the anger. However, this Brother is very sincere and he walks the walk of a zealous JW. It would probably crush him if, at this point in his life he were to learn TTATT.

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FB message from a "true" friend

by losingit in

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i thought i would share this fb message from someone who considers himself to be a "true" friend of mine.

after learning from my former husband tha i am disfellowshipped, he writes the following: .

fb true friend: "xxxxx with tears in my eyes i will be deleting you but i want you as my sister again.

bildad

Awake! 6/8/2003 made this comment: "AMONG the greatest gifts parents can give to their children are unconditional love and a set of values that the parents live by and do not just lecture about."

A reader responded to this in the 2/8/04 issue: Values I was surprised by the statement in the opening paragraph of the second article of the series “What Has Happened to Values?” (June 8, 2003) It stated: “Among the greatest gifts parents can give to their children are unconditional love and a set of values that the parents live by.” When children and adults act as if they are entitled to one another’s love, values will always decline. K. B., United States “Awake!” responds: The phrase “unconditional love” was used to suggest that parents should not imply that their love for their children is fragile or tenuous—that it might be withdrawn at any moment because of some failing on the child’s part or that the child is obliged to earn parental love by doing everything just right.—Ephesians 6:4; Colossians 3:21. ....soooooooo, when a parent refuses to even speak with their own DF child they are still showing unconditional love?

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Do you remember your Baptism Talk?

by bildad in

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do you remember anything from your baptism talk or the brother who gave it?.

bildad

Of all the "Privileges" I enjoyed, the Baptism was up there. Enjoyed getting to meet the candidates beforehand and talking with them.

Like Blondie, I did not dedicate myself to the Organization as that was not one of the two questions they asked.

Of course I have different feelings today. Especially when you think it through. It is true JW's don't practice infant baptism, they certainly practice child baptism. So you make a decision at 9 yrs of age and you are held accountable forever. You can't just say "I was a kid, I didn't know what I was getting into!" Nope, you are DF the same as an adult who made that decision. A very serious flaw.

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So where else can we go?

by Julia Orwell in

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no, i'm not misquoting peter talking to jesus again, or relating a conversation i had with a jw.. i'm asking something a little different.. i began my fade in jan this year and completed it at the memorial on 26th march.

since learning ttatt and becoming mentally free, my depression has improved, i see colours better, and my anxiety issues have dissolved.

i returned to teaching high school after years away from it, and am a substitute teacher at some local schools.

bildad

becaus the mess helped so much.

Meant to say, "because the Meds help so much!"

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So where else can we go?

by Julia Orwell in

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no, i'm not misquoting peter talking to jesus again, or relating a conversation i had with a jw.. i'm asking something a little different.. i began my fade in jan this year and completed it at the memorial on 26th march.

since learning ttatt and becoming mentally free, my depression has improved, i see colours better, and my anxiety issues have dissolved.

i returned to teaching high school after years away from it, and am a substitute teacher at some local schools.

bildad

Glad to hear you are getting help and seeing a Psychiatrist. I remember there was a Question From Readers in the 5/15/63 WT as to whether a Psychiatrist would have to change jobs if they became a JW. Why did they have to even ask? Because, mental illness was considered a "Spiritual Weakness" not a biological illness by many in the Org.

I had a friend who had to leave the missionary work because of her depression. Later diagnosed manic depressive and began medication. She later returned to a foreign assignment becaus the mess helped so much. BUT, as she was going through the depression she told me one of her fellow missionaries thought maybe she was not reading WT Pubs enough! Wasn't that encouraging? She remained a witness till her death a few yrs ago. One of finest people my wife and I ever knew. Her experience was a tremendous help when we suffered from the same illness in our family.

Sounds like you have a plan. Stick with it.

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So where else can we go?

by Julia Orwell in

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no, i'm not misquoting peter talking to jesus again, or relating a conversation i had with a jw.. i'm asking something a little different.. i began my fade in jan this year and completed it at the memorial on 26th march.

since learning ttatt and becoming mentally free, my depression has improved, i see colours better, and my anxiety issues have dissolved.

i returned to teaching high school after years away from it, and am a substitute teacher at some local schools.

bildad

So sorry to hear about your situation.

Major and Manic Depression (bi-Polar Disorder) are in my family. Have found that medication surely helps. Over the yrs I have observed that many give up as they try various medications that might work. My advice, DON'T GIVE UP.

Depression is not a spiritual sickness. Just like diabetes your body may be experiencing a chemical deficiency of some sort. There are a variety of medications that could help.

Even though you are not an active JW doesn't mean God doesn't still provide. You have already learned that these episodes pass. In a few weeks you may not feel this way at all. Hold on to that prospect. In the meantime get plenty of rest and try to get outside and walk.

Hoping the best for you.

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Do you remember your Baptism Talk?

by bildad in

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do you remember anything from your baptism talk or the brother who gave it?.

bildad

Do you remember anything from your Baptism Talk or the Brother who gave it?

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Zealous Witnesses who never had children and regret it now.

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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i had two close friends in the org.

one is in her early thirties and got married last year and the other one is single and in her late twenties.

after reading coc, i couldn't help but feel sad at how ray and his wife felt regret at putting the religion first and not having any children.

bildad

The following quote if from the book Children published in 1941 by the Watchtower.

"No children were taken on Noah's ark or were born on the ark...this would show it to be proper to wait until after Armegedon to bring children into this world...it is only a few years from the time the other sheep are gathered to the Lord, until Armagedon...those who have infants during Armagedon will have much greater woe...it would be a far greater difficulty to care for them during the great tribulation..." Children book 1941 p.281

This quote is basically accurate. However, I checked in my copy of Children book and found this info on p 312. Just in case someone else checked and said it was not in the book.

Pretty interesting reading and very different format from most of Rutherford's writings that I have seen. John and Eunice (the characters portrayed in the book) would be 90 now, still unmarried, and if following advice in this book, they would still be living with their individualparents.

Wonder how that is working out for them!