Topics Started by OutsiderLookingIn

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Indoctrination or insistence on being right?
by OutsiderLookingIn in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
nobody likes to be wrong.

so after being taught that they have "the truth" for so long, is it that jws just don't want to admit that they are wrong so they'll keep going in the same direction rather than reversing course?

this is different from indoctrination when you truly believe what you're saying.
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So, any comments from the Memorial?
by NewYork44M in
1. jw
2. friends
perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

it happened last night, right?.

in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.
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Russian Ban exposed but not THE ARC...WHY?
by tor1500 in
1. jw
2. friends
just your thoughts....i've been all over this site, everyone says, that if jehovah was backing the org.

then why so many things happen in the org.

child abuse, shunning, and so on....but my question or thought is why is the banning of witnesses all over the media, but the arc isn't wasn't picked up in the media, like this (oh little leaks here and there, but nothing major) nothing like the nyt or any major media venue where the friends would see it and couldn't deny it, even if they wanted to....why does the media care more about banning witnesses than child abuse...i know even if the arc was exposed many of the friends would stay, but would be shamed, because they talked about other religions...or maybe jehovah is bringing the org.
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You can defeat lies with truth. But you can only suppress truth with censorship.
by Island Man in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
watchtower bans jws from visiting apostate sites and reading apostate literature.

banning is the tool of the weak and the cowardly, those lacking the courage and/or strength to defeat the enemy face to face.

we ban - quarantine - infected ebola patients from the rest of the population because it's a strong disease and we lack a cure for it.
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The Pagan Origins of the Memorial Observed by Jehovah’s Witnesses
by David_Jay in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
“we don’t celebrate holidays because god doesn’t approve of any celebration that is rooted in pagan customs and manmade traditions.” (see here for a similar jw response.).

if you were once an ex-jw like me, you have probably said something like this out in field service to someone who asked the question: why don’t you people celebrate holidays?

as the witnesses' official website states in an faq about not celebrating easter:.
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"Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth."
by pale.emperor in
1. watchtower
2. bible
now that im not longer a jw this verse puzzles me.

being born and raised a witness, this verse confirmed to me that jesus was talking about a paradise on earth.

but now that everything the witnesses taught is 99.99% incorrect can somone explain what he was getting at here?
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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?
by nicolaou in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?
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Any Others of the "Anointed"?
by Hernandez in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i was baptized in 1985, was a regular pioneer, ministerial servant, and on the way to becoming an elder when i left the witnesses in 1999. i also was one of those who claimed and (at the time ) believed i was one of the anointed.. i am wondering if there are any others here who also claimed they were of the anointed?

how did you come to that conclusion?

how do you feel about your claim now that you are out?.
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In love with a JW girl
by rastapau in
1. social
2. relationships
need advise.

i was in a relation with a jw girl for almost three years(im am not jw) and we are so inlove with each other until someone saw us from her congregation and she was disfellowed and that where the oddness happened.

her family and friends are not talking to her anymore, she wants me to stop seeing and talking to her anymore not until i became a baptized jw.
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JW broadcasting and doubts
by Colinconfused in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
hi everyone to cut a long story short, ive been away from the meetings for over 10 years.

i recently reconnected with the congregation and started a study.

cant get my head around all the changes and jw broadcasting.