Posts by HiddlesWife

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News story re: Doris Nelson. How many involved are Witnesses?

by LogCon in

there are a number of defendants being sued by the trustee.

two are jw's from vancouver lower mainland.

this b--ch started the business in vancouver and then took it to washington.. here is the list of defendants.. lls america llc, debtor.

HiddlesWife

I wonder if The CNBC TV series "American Greed" may profile this case as an episode on their show. . . . . . .

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Leah Remini - Scientology Documentary

by tresdecu in

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friends

i know some has been posted about leah remini and her split from scientology.

i just wanted to add after finishing it last night, it is a must watch for questioning jws...every episode has familiar situations and parallels that will make jws really think (or squirm).

watch it with someone you want to wake up!!!!

There is an actress who is an ex-JW: Her name is Juliana Devers. She has had roles on ABC-TV series "Castle" and "Scandal". [In fact, there is thread started via fellow regular poster "RR" about her life experiences.] Reading about her, I would personally suggest that maybe she could do what Leah Remini is now showing about Scientology.

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From Jehovah's Witness to Hollywood actress

by RR in

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friends

from jehovah's witness to hollywood actressby tim townsendst.

louis post-dispatch09/11/2006.

juliana dever in "mangler reborn".

HiddlesWife

Maybe Juliana needs to be to the BORG what Leah Remini is to Scientology. (Maybe someone could contact her to do an expose', please?). IMVVHO.

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Org Is RACIST! Towards Sisters Of COLOR In Particular--IMO!

by HiddlesWife in

i'm sorry--i'm getting this very sensitive vibe that the org (mainly those at the top) don't have any respect--forget about love--for sisters of color.

i'm coming to this conclusion from a couple of videos on jw broadcasting about single sisters.. after watching this video: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnjrbkggp4g.

HiddlesWife

I'm sorry--I'm getting this very sensitive vibe that the Org (mainly those at the top) don't have any respect--forget about love--for sisters of color. I'm coming to this conclusion from a couple of videos on jw broadcasting about single sisters.

After watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnjrbkgGP4g

Showing the black sister (Afro-Brit) and her dilemma re: wanting a marriage mate and told "bad advice" about JW dating websites.

Also, this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xuWY9TMVRQ

It is entitled: "What Is True Love?". Again, showing a sister of color (Latina/Hispanic) having difficulty concerning a relationship and wanting to marry a decent brother.

No offense to anyone caucasian but: these videos are displaying the females of color having hard times/bad experiences while the white sisters are not going through a great deal of trials in this area--and not that they have to--but, to me (and a few others I mentioned these to) it is very noticeable and certainly not fair.

Furthermore: Doesn't the GB (and their helpers) realize that a great deal of Jehovah's Army, which are women, are mainly women of color--expecially within the USA? Come on, now! To me, it seems as though--and hopefully not--videos are sending subliminal messages to the sisters--and possibly brothers--that this to be their only lot plus future in life. No prospects for any happiness--particularly due to race/background and gender!

Sorry folks for my usual rants ("Yeah, Hiddleswife is at it again, with topics in this area!"), but it really, really pisses me off when stuff like this is going on in the Org; this is not supposed to happen there. Speakers along with the publications for many years have been always saying that "we are no part of the world" when it comes to the aforementioned. However, as I pointed out in one of my previous threads I started during summer, I still notice that in the "world" non-dubs are having very little situations/issues with interracial relationships and mixed families. {S.N.: If the Org does not respect women of color, WHY SEND JWs TO PREACH TO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?! MAY BE THEY SHOULD AVOID KNOCKING ON THEIR DOORS FROM THE GITTYUP!!}

Once again, sorry for the rant (apologies for the all caps, which denotes yelling). So, about this posting and the videos, could anyone please give me some feedback? (I promise to be civil and not yell anymore). Thanks.

Interesting YOU TUBERS Re: The Org.

by HiddlesWife in

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marcus+vaughn.

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=mike+kim.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+cedars.

HiddlesWife

I found a plethora of You Tube videos made by some who are in the org. or who are done with it, etc. The following I see are very interesting are:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marcus+vaughn

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=mike+kim

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+cedars

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=christian+katja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlIXYlptHfc (Susan Gaskin's experiences as a single sister in the org.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PbT3a_40gM (Joy Grant's testimonies about the org.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQLfi1u2JAw (vera747's points of view)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqzPVz33YJm-AfP7LGIHZHw [TruthSurvives411 (former elder)]

. . . . . and I know plus I'm sure that the list goes on and on. The above is evidence that there are so many persons who were in the org and have discovered what is really going on in there. So, does any one have any other videos they'd like to share? If so, let me know!

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Brothers Not Traveling With Sisters, Etc.

by HiddlesWife in

i've noticed within the past 2-3 decades that brothers have not traveled to various destinations with sisters and/or families.. myself with my own 2 sisters (bio/spiritual), 3 cousins, and 4-5 friends usually travel once a year during the spring and summer months to a number of places, whether it be via bus, train or plane.

the travel groups [there are 3 which are commandeered by some older sisters and their own bio sisters, daughters, and granddaughters plus a niece or two)] which total about 30-40 persons travel regularly during these times of the year.

although there are a great amount of females on these trips, there are hardly any adult males in attendance; the only males who are seated with the group range from age 5 to 12 approximately--these young boys are 2-6 in total--and once they reach high school age, that number dwindles from 1-0!.

HiddlesWife

Thank you No Apologies for your response. I agree with you wholeheartedly re: those in the org being very deficient socially. In conjunction with your comment, here's a couple of other points:

During the above formal I attended a while back, there was a brother who was a comedian who performed on stage at that venue. While his jokes and pantomimes were funny and clean, there was very little laughter heard--in fact, from the over 100 folks who attended! The only ones I noticed who laughed, besides myself, my sisters and my cousins,were the hostesses and their family members. This was so noticeable that the brother himself ended his routine by commenting that "laughter was created by Jehovah for mankind to enjoy themselves. We, as His people, should take advantage of this emotion and enjoy ourselves, too"; he walked off the stage shaking his head in disbelief (also bro-ham did not stay long at this event). Talk about a tough audience!

Secondly, on a couple of bus trips given by a married couple from my cousin's former congregation, which I traveled on about over 12 years ago, there was a concert scheduled on the itinerary for the group to attend. The music was a variety of genres, particularly jazz, pop, plus R&B. You know, the majority of the group just sat there--zombie-ish/no movement at all--while the music was played! Myself in addition to my family members, and around less than 10 other brothers and sisters snapped our fingers and 'bopped and danced ourselves to the groove', enjoying the performance. Again, talk about another tough audience!

In agreement with another point from your comment: These ones are mentally and psychologically stunted to the degree whereby they can't (and/or don't) enjoy music--a gift from Jah Himself! What a shame!

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Brothers Not Traveling With Sisters, Etc.

by HiddlesWife in

i've noticed within the past 2-3 decades that brothers have not traveled to various destinations with sisters and/or families.. myself with my own 2 sisters (bio/spiritual), 3 cousins, and 4-5 friends usually travel once a year during the spring and summer months to a number of places, whether it be via bus, train or plane.

the travel groups [there are 3 which are commandeered by some older sisters and their own bio sisters, daughters, and granddaughters plus a niece or two)] which total about 30-40 persons travel regularly during these times of the year.

although there are a great amount of females on these trips, there are hardly any adult males in attendance; the only males who are seated with the group range from age 5 to 12 approximately--these young boys are 2-6 in total--and once they reach high school age, that number dwindles from 1-0!.

HiddlesWife

I've noticed within the past 2-3 decades that brothers have not traveled to various destinations with sisters and/or families.

Myself with my own 2 sisters (bio/spiritual), 3 cousins, and 4-5 friends usually travel once a year during the spring and summer months to a number of places, whether it be via bus, train or plane. The travel groups [there are 3 which are commandeered by some older sisters and their own bio sisters, daughters, and granddaughters plus a niece or two)] which total about 30-40 persons travel regularly during these times of the year. Although there are a great amount of females on these trips, there are hardly any adult males in attendance; the only males who are seated with the group range from age 5 to 12 approximately--these young boys are 2-6 in total--and once they reach high school age, that number dwindles from 1-0!

After witnessing this pattern, I asked my two male cousins who are in the org and three other brothers, whom are close to my family. They all expressed, in their own words, that "brothers are not interested in shopping or going to a lot of places that sisters like/fancy to go/see". I became confused by those words--especially since I see groups of MEN and BOYS in so many other groups (no doubt NON-DUBS) travelling and having a great time/fun with females (no matter what age range) in their riding parties. {Hell, my above-listed family and friends spoke about a large car group of people, which we saw during a recent trip--racially mixed with men and women, children plus pets--shopping, dining and having a great ole' time!} We all could not believe it!

I asked the sisters who were the trip leaders about this. They commented that "a number of brothers act like, unless they are getting married to a sister, they won't want to be in the company of other ones" and "Some brothers feel more comfortable associating with other brothers. They think that sisters are not interested in basketball games, pool, certain movies and the like. So, they decline when I ask them to go on my trips!".

Furthermore--if I could add to this topic--I attended a year and half ago a formal. This event was given by three married sisters. The invitees in attendance was mostly female and very, very few males (ratio: 90% female - 10% male). The males there were the marriage mates of the hostesses and their daughters plus nieces and a toddler or two. As usual, the majority of women (mainly sisters) who could dance, danced with one another.

Again, what is going on here with the org? Mysogyny--or are some of these men involved in things, which on the other hand get them in a whole $%^* load of trouble in private while the women are globetrotting? (Sorry for my rant again) Oi vey!!!!!

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

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friends

this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

HiddlesWife

Kind of sidebar, but I'm sure my experience is in conjunction with this topic:

When my maternal grandmother died in the mid-1990s (she was the main family member who brought us all in the org), my immediate family did not attend meetings during the week that she passed on (we had to travel back and forth to the hospital where she expired; also making funeral arrangements, etc.). What shocked me was that a few brothers and sisters--a couple of elders and their wives were commenting that, "The ___________ Family should come to the meetings anyway". "The funeral arrangements can be taken care of in the a.m. hours", and other similar remarks. When we heard this, we were appalled--how dare they! We just lost a loved one in death, and this is the mindset/mentality they showed to us. These ones have no compassion and certainly no heart!

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Interracial Relationships and JWs

by HiddlesWife in

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i've noticed that within the past couple of decades, i don't see a lot of interracial relationships (ir, for short) in the org.. i, myself, was involved in an ir over 2-3 decades ago and was engaged to get married [my ethnicity is: african-american and latina; my ex-fiance's ethnicity is: scottish and italian].

he broke off the engagement, after three years of friendship and two years of dating, because his uncle and another brother (who was a temporary volunteer at bethel) pressured him to end our relationship [p.s.

: his mother was quite close to my mother, one of my sisters and one of my close cousins.

HiddlesWife

I've noticed that within the past couple of decades, I don't see a lot of interracial relationships (IR, for short) in the org.

I, myself, was involved in an IR over 2-3 decades ago and was engaged to get married [my ethnicity is: African-American and Latina; my ex-fiance's ethnicity is: Scottish and Italian]. He broke off the engagement, after three years of friendship and two years of dating, because his uncle and another brother (who was a temporary volunteer at Bethel) pressured him to end our relationship [P.S.: His mother was quite close to my mother, one of my sisters and one of my close cousins. Also, his other four siblings wanted us to get together; these persons wholeheartedly approved of our relationship.]

While dating and preparing for the wedding ceremony (both of us were in good standing status), my ex's uncle was very influential and was putting a bug in my ex's father's ear that,"IR couples have a lot of problems; they should not be getting married at all", plus: "Their children will be in for a big world of hurt, since there are so many worldlings who hate non-whites and whites getting together, like same race folks do", and other similar comments. Furthermore, the T.V. Bethelite was stating rhetoric like: "JWs are always having problems from the world. IRs would cause us to receive more persecution from people who are prejudice and are not serving Jehovah. He [my ex] doesn't need to deal with any more troubles!". There was so much pressure placed daily on my ex by these idiots to the point whereby he would postpone various scheduled appointments, plans and even phone calls to me! Eventually, when he did contact me one evening--approximately six months before the wedding date--to inform me that we should break up. After pleading to him and trying to change his mind, he just said that he "couldn't handle all of the things associated with our relationship". In fact, he made the comment that if we were to continue on, "one or both of us to get disfellowshiped!". This remark, even to this very day, hits a resonating cord with me that something was not right in Denmark re: his dealings with his uncle and that so-called Bethelite.

My family members, plus three elders and a MS, whom I was very close to (in the cong. I was associated with at that time) made arrangements with the CO (who was assigned to us then) to have a pow-wow meeting with my ex's elders in order to resolve the situation. But, alas, the BOEs of his cong. refused and made remarks like "engaged couples break up constantly; this would be a waste of precious time", and "Who cares! We all as elders/servants have more important matters to attend to!". This all added to the heartbroken state I was trying to recover from. Moreover, a Bethelite from one of my potential bridesmaids' cong. came over to me (a couple of months later) to "console" me with an article about what the org thinks about IRs. It was an older WT article (perhaps 1970s). It was stating, in a paragraph he highlighted in yellow, that it would be of the best interest of the IR couple to thoroughly think through to see if getting married is beneficial--especially since they may incur persecution from others, particularly people who are not serving Jehovah, etc. His "bringing this to my attention" was also a shock to the system; I couldn't at the time believe that Bethelites were partial when concerning IRs as well [S.N.: The BOEs in my former cong were multicultural (i.e., A-A, Latino, Asian, Indian, etc.); the BOEs in my ex's cong were 80% caucasian and 20% multicultural; also, the "helpful" Bethelite was caucasian himself.].

I can't help but think how this org could be considered an "international brotherhood". Many years thereafter I have noticed, including while residing in another city in the southwestern United States for almost a decade, the IR couples look like they are dwindling. On the other hand, I notice that the people outside of the org are doing their own thing--and not letting others dictate what they do and who they love in their private lives--dating and marrying interracially. One small example: one of my 1st cousin's daughters (A-A and non-dub) got hitched in early 2002 to a young man who is a mixture of Italian/Irish/Welsh/Belgian/Japanese. They are still together, successfully raising two adorable children (both my 2nd cousin and her husband are college grads working and employed at prominent companies in the southeastern region of the US). Furthermore, this evidence I found while googling IR info: https://www.google.com/#q=interracial+relationships+tumblr I don't know if any of the individuals there could be in the org, but this represents that relationships of that caliber shouldn't be something that Jah disapproves of ("from Adam, one man, came all men", if I'm quoting the scriptural text correctly).

Sorry, everyone, for my rant, but this issue has been on my mind for a very long while. So, what do you all think about this? I would like to hear any and all opinions/thoughts on this matter. Thanks.

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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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HiddlesWife

I'm kind of old school: some 60s and 70s; also 80s and 90s. I got interested back again in the music of the following artists (some folks say I have eclectic/eccentric taste):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf3eStejef0&list=PL3SPwwCTiBlu5Ohc7bugm4jq8SkGb0MOy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzD6E9-jTWA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmSXIOlN6mY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOg5VxrRTi0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0rYzGI6m3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IHaoZWqBSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xowf-3ADhWg

and an extra favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1TSBM_byqE