yes, there’s a post on reddit.
it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.
this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!
LHG, this is a great thread, btw.
Since and also a good amount of JWs are on FIXED INCOMES, several may "reason" that there are dubs in their individual Congs who have incomes that can help their fellow members with a number of aspects: Rents, mortgages, car notes, bills, food, clothing, and so on. Actually, WT SHOULD--like most other organizations--be the one to provide its followers when these persons are in need/down and out. However, they DON'T CHOOSE/WANT TO DO SO! 😫🤬
after years of speculation, jw movie star & chorus member nicolas king, who ironically starred as the bad guy espousing homosexuality in a jw movie, has coupled up with his performing partner and also performed in a church for pride month.. .
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WT really wants the outside world (along with their membership) to think that their organization is a PERFECT one. Everyone representing their cultporation must be PERFECT--even though humankind is not. So, when a follower makes a mistake, they DELETE these persons as if they never existed. This is HUBRISTIC on the part of the leadership. This is something JESUS CHRIST wouldn't do! (But, of course, WT is NOT Christian and is mainly a MAN-MADE CORPORATION. . . . . .)
...according to bro.
tony evans, district overseer, @ the voyager school assembly, peterborough, uk 10-2-13:.
"jehovah does not give holy spirit, apart from the scriptures.
This sounds like the "claim to fame" of other cult leaders, past and present! Many of them make/lay the claim that "God (or another respected deity) speaks to them and them only". So, impressionable-minded people would flock to this idea. Whereas these CHARLATANS WITH THEIR SNAKE OILS excite/influence the hell of these people to the degree that some become eventual followers. Again, when someone makes these and similar remarks--which DON'T PASS THE SMELL TEST--I, IMPHO, say "RUN!". ☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽
any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
As a matter of fact, Canadian Coast Guard found the remains of the Titan (along with PRESUMED HUMAN REMAINS):
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/28/americas/titan-submersible-debris-st-johns/index.html
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any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
Although it's now too late---> STOCKTON RUSH could've built the Titan similar to The Flying Sub as shown/used in "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" TV series (broadcasted on ABCTV Network in the 1960s). I'm referring to that because although this item is a fictional one, the design and parameters of this vessel are one, IMPHO, which looked much more well-built/indestructible and first plus foremost SAFE! In fact, Rush--instead of RUSHING in respect to design and construction--could've and should've consulted submersible experts such as JAMES CAMERON plus other submariners. Since he wanted to take the VERY CHEAP way out, he forfeited his own life and those of the passengers. My heart really goes out to 19-year-old Suleman Dawood, who had strong misgivings about accompanying his father on this ill-fated expedition in the first place. 😥🙏🏼
any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
@TonusOH=> Yes! CEO Stockton Rush was in fact the PILOT in this expedition. As a matter of fact, he spoke about the operations of this "creation" in prior interviews:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/business/stockton-rush-titanic-submersible/index.html
any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
Just because someone is rich, doesn't mean they are wise or sensible
To Simon==> I TOTALLY agree with you! In fact, I discovered this interesting (if you can call it that) tidbit earlier today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1461368.stm
Speaking about people who are very foolish!
any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
Although these men had paid $250,000.00 to be passengers on here, my question is this==> Didn’t they survey the mini-sub BEFORE they paid their fee?
Also, within surveying the vehicle, they can check to see if it was: (a) Comfortable [to sit or see if there is enough legroom for each passenger], (b) Suitable Restroom Facilities [in the event that Nature calls, they can–without discomfort and embarrassment–manage themselves in this area], (c) Food and Beverage [ensure that there is a substantial amount of these on hand for the duration of the trip], and (d) Look Out Area [more than the small window provided for all paying travelers to actually view the R.M.S.].
IMPHO, this corporation more than likely GYPPED these people! Besides these 4 folks diving in a proverbial “sardine can” with a small timeframe for oxygen allowance, it seems as if something happened–and it has undoubtedly happened–A REAL RESCUE CONTINGENCY PLAN to be put into full effect force. The CEO, regardless of NDAs or some other contracts signed by the now victims–will be looking forward to being litigated by someone’s family members/loved ones in the nearest future! Just. My. Observations.
geoffrey jackson seems so much happier than back in 2015.. .
geoffrey jackson "not my field" australian royal commission 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dki6j-ydc7e.
The cultporation has and still is teetering on the heels of other high-control group-religions (FLDS, factions of Islam, etc.) where creativity and personal expression are outlawed. To show that it was senseless was that when Jaracz (of GB1.0) didn't want the Bethellite sisters (full-time and commuter) to wear jeans or denim pants while working particular jobs where PANTS were apropos/needed to be worn. The leadership's mindsets were TOTALLY back in the DARK AGES, to say the least! 🤦♀️😫
any opinions are just speculation, but my guess, being morbid, is that there was not a hull breach and implosion (although that would have been the most merciful fate for them), but instead the amateur level of building this thing meant that it lost power and communication and got itself tangled in the titanic's wreckage or is sitting on the actual seabed with no way to release ballast to resurface.
terrifying.
what's your gut feeling?
Also, the inside passenger capacity is also in question:
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1183273102/titan-missing-sub-titanic-rescue-oceangate
Not only the number of people, but the amount of food and beverages ("sandwiches and water") plus the very small restroom facilities are not conducive for even the short-term ("6 to 8-hour tour") ride to the R.M.S. I betcha this whole arrangement in very close quarters adds to the full uncomfortability in addition to the very little oxygen (which is now harder to maintain) they have to use within this extremely dire situation! 😖😫
