Posts by BarelyThere

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Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing

by I am a Bible Student in

johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.

they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .

BarelyThere

I don't know if this carries any weight to it or not, but in the cong I was just DFd from, there was a "special pioneer" couple in their 60's. I live in a rural community with no need for special pioneers - there just isn't enough people to even preach to. I learned from working in service with them that they had been in Bethel for several decades and then just about 3 years ago, they were told they had a new assignment of being special pioneers. They could pick anywhere they wanted to live. They chose this particular community because that's where they still had family. They would even joke that they had been "sent out to pasture" because they were getting older.

I always thought that while it probably was better for the organization financially, to support two special pioneers with an "allowance" rather than take care of everything for them at Bethel, it was still rather cruel. To go from such a strict way of living with certain amenities to then having to adjust to the "real world".

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

BarelyThere

I was talking about free will last night and thought "why would God give such a conditional 'gift'? Here, take this wonderful thing but only use it how I see fit." It just doesn't make sense. Nothing is making any sense.

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A long shot but trying to connect with someone I barely knew

by BarelyThere in

i know this is a shot in the dark but i figure if there's any chance of connecting with this person, it would be on here.

i'm looking for an exjw named jamie who lives in the destin, fl area.

he had a good friend named matt and was in his wedding.

BarelyThere

I know this is a shot in the dark but I figure if there's any chance of connecting with this person, it would be on here. I'm looking for an exJW named Jamie who lives in the Destin, FL area. He had a good friend named Matt and was in his wedding. I was in the wedding too. I know he's now DFed or DA (not sure which), but only after having gone through the experience of getting married, wife getting DFed and reinstated, and then getting a divorce. I'm sorry for taking up topic space but I figured it was worth a shot.

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I can't let go of this obsession...

by juandefiero in

jw
friends

i really want to let go of the exjw obsession.

but i can't.

i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!

BarelyThere

I'm having a crappy and emotional day too. You're not alone there. I wish I had your conviction, though. I feel like I'm in a limbo as to what to believe.

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Any former elders brains I could pick?

by BarelyThere in

jw
friends

i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

i was dfed back in september for adultery.

BarelyThere

Stan livedeath... Yes I am. He was dfd too. Not from the same cong, but a cong in the same KH

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Any former elders brains I could pick?

by BarelyThere in

jw
friends

i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

i was dfed back in september for adultery.

BarelyThere

So here are a few extra details:

-My ex does not attend the cong and moved away

-I was generally well liked by the hall before this happened

-I know at least 2/3 elders like me. One of them told my mom the night I was DFd that he "didn't want to" and that "I'm a good kid."

-I've been planning on remarrying the other guy. I know this is probably the biggest hang up

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Any former elders brains I could pick?

by BarelyThere in

jw
friends

i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

i was dfed back in september for adultery.

BarelyThere

Hi there...so here goes nothing. I posted in another topic a few hours ago. It is my first time on here or any website like this, ever. I was DFed back in September for adultery. I was married at only 19. I was young and immature. I decided it would be better to be DFed rather than be married to someone my entire life and live a mediocre life but keep my family and friends. I've tried explaining that to them over and over "would you want me to be unhappy forever just to keep things at the status quo?" Either way, I would like to get reinstated because I do want to freely contact my friends and family without any social stigma. To go shopping with my mom we have to go over an hour out of the way. To see one of my good friends she has to lie to her husband. And then there are the other friends and family members who flat out won't talk to me at all. They claim they are doing it out of love but none of them have ever been in this boat before! Because this has definitely been the most psychologically taxing thing I've ever been through. I feel like I'm in an invisible torture chamber. Anyway, sorry for all the rambling, I'm stressed out because I read in the elders book that "where there is evidence of conspiracy between individuals to put away their mates and marry each other, considerable time should elapse to prove their repentance and gain reinstatement." Now, I didn't conspire to "put away my mate." I was unhappy and worked on my marriage and got nothing in return. I regret that I have to say that I had an affair but I turned my time and attention to someone else. The other person was also a JW but was single. So he did not "put away a mate." Can anyone please tell me how much time I can expect to have to wait to be reinstated?? I want to get back in and just fade away, since for whatever reason it'll be okay for my family/friends to talk to me under those circumstances but not when I have this "label".

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First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

BarelyThere

I'm in the US. Florida

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First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

BarelyThere

Thanks everyone for your kind words. I haven't had many in the past 4 months. I was DFd for cheating on my husband. I got married when I was way too young (19) and several years went by and I just couldn't take it anymore. I had been trying to work on my marriage for over a year and was so frustrated with it and myself, that I got in trouble with another JW. Im not proud of what I did, Jw or not a JW, but it is what it is. Anyway, I "came forward" with the information. The elders wanted us to stay together but my ex husband didn't want anything to do with me anyway (not that I blame him). I think if we had stayed together i wouldn't have been DFed.

In some ways I am lucky - my parents still talk to me and one of my girl friends does too. But everyone else, including my sister and my best friend of 10 years has cut me off. I'm also well educated and have a full time job that keeps me busy.

Honestly, i don't know what I believe right now. My biggest issue is with all the hypocrisy I've discovered. It makes me want to scream. I want to come back so I can have communication with my entire family. Even though I can talk to my parents, it really depresses me that I can't go have dinner with my family as a whole. All I do is think about it and how uncertain everything is. I feel like I'm on the verge of a mental break down most days!

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First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

BarelyThere

Okay so here goes...this is my first time on here. I'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless. I was DFed in September and I am still wrapping my head around everything. If there's any support on here, I would greatly appreciate it.