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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  WireRider

  What I do know is that no one in the Watchtower or the Jehovah's Witness has EVER spoken with God about anything.

  I'm sure if God stopped by recently we would see a much different world.

  They lie about everything.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  WireRider

  nicolaou: I believe there are things beyond our understanding. There are things beyond everyone's understanding.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  And there you go = 2015 Watchtower

  I guess when I speak I usually speak of modern day Christianity, and not so much Biblical written word. Modern culture does bring forward a base in foundation of the Bible, but in conventional ways.

  I do still take issue with false prophets as a clear, and very simple, definition.

  If you lied - you lied. If you claim to speak to God, and for God, you lied.

  Why do people still believe anything the they say?
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  Very very untrue, The Bible does not teach hate, control, brainwashing, and a world owned by a few humans - lying about God for personal control and cash. I find the comparison offensive.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  WireRider

  My question is very fundamental. The Bible condemns false prophets. If you claim to speak to, or for, God and claim events in his name, and those events do not take place, they are a false prophet. How do people read that and still believe in the Watchtower.

  Russell guaranteed the world would end in 1914. (based upon his recent travel to Egypt (pictures online) and measurements of the great pyramid - not because of anything in the Bible) Opps - didn't happen.

  He apologized that his measurements were a little off - and promised the world would end in the next year, 1915.

  God got fed up and killed Russell in 1916. (he had to let 1915 expire completely just to rub it in that Russell was a lier.)

  They have always been false prophets. Why do people refuse the Bible and still follow the Watchtower? Many many false claims followed.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  I am Christian. In another capacity - I am also an ordained Christian Pastor.

  I hate to see the injustice of false religion force down the throats of those who do not accept it. Forcing people to shun people is reprehensibly cruel and a tool of the weak and scared. If your faith is so wrong that you have to resort to emotional terrorism to keep people to stay, it is evil and not a Christian belief.
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  Why do people follow demonstrably False Prophets?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the watchtower?

  the bible warns us many times and in many ways not to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire.

  fundamentally why do the followers of the watchtower just ignore the very bible they claim to live by?.

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  WireRider

  Why does everyone just turn a blind eye to the false teachings of the Watchtower? The Bible warns us many times and in many ways NOT to follow false prophets - including the lake of fire. Fundamentally why do the followers of the Watchtower just ignore the very Bible they claim to live by?

  How can people just "overlook" dozens or so times the Watchtower has guaranteed the end of the world on certain dates, and just go "oops". And people keep going. And people keep going. People keep giving them their money. Sure that EVERYTHING they claim is true..

  The Bible very clearly states that the 144,00 ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY 12,000 of each of the 12 tribes of Israel - NEVER ABOUT the Watchtower and the JW. The Bible clearly says the Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses will be cast into the lake of fire for being false prophets - and generally conning people to be their obedient human slaves and trying to build an anti-Christ army on earth.

  The Watchtower is the only organized group on the planet to force people NOT to go to Church and to NOT read the Bible on their own without THEIR strict perversion of it and specifically to go out of their way to denounce Christ.

  I don't know if the Watchtower is the anti-Christ - but they really think they are - and trying everything they can to kiss his feet and beg to be his servant. The anti-Christ and the Watchtower are the only ones with a great longing for the "final battle" and Armageddon. Guess what - the Watchtower is screwed. Satan thinks they are a joke too.

  The WT/JW are a doomsday cult, It's a sick and misguided belief as an excuse to control, manipulate, and torture people for a future they will NEVER get..

  Every penny and every moment and every word is in support of them in condemning others into a life of human controlled emotionally slavery. I wish everyone would just LEAVE and cripple their power. EVERYONE that still attends ANY services or functions are promoting human emotional slavery. Next time, every time, you set foot into a "Kingdom Hall" you are promoting the terrorism of others.
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  What Is She Thinking?

  by thankyou in

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  i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.

  i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.

  it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.

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  If it's not too late - save yourself and walk away. I was involved for two years (we had both been divorced from terrible marriages) with a JW who assured me that she could have a relationship, even to some day get married. I have found, unfortunately, that JW seem to be able to lie without any regret or remorse. Most don't want to be be in the cult in the first place and just lie about it, and to them, without any problem at all to appear to be in good standing. Aloof, arrogant, and hypocritical. I was engaged for one day before her brother and the cult found out. It sounds like she spent the next two weeks strapped in a chair for "special" brainwashing.
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  83,000 theocratic facilites?

  by average joe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a bethelite was telling me that there are 83,000 theocratic facilities world wide.

  he compared that to 35,000 mcdonalds and 21,000 starbucks roughly to show the size of the theocratic organization.

  i am not sure where the 83,000 comes from what would he be counting?

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  Where is the location/address list of 83,000 WT owned properties?
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  83,000 theocratic facilites?

  by average joe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a bethelite was telling me that there are 83,000 theocratic facilities world wide.

  he compared that to 35,000 mcdonalds and 21,000 starbucks roughly to show the size of the theocratic organization.

  i am not sure where the 83,000 comes from what would he be counting?

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  WireRider

  83,000 buildings. So what? Is that the goal of a religion?

  I believe more in the message and charitable work of McD.

  83,000 has only accomplished a stain upon the fake and bastardized rip off of Christianity. The WT keeps people out of real churches. The WT prints a fake bible and tons of books to keep people away from the real Bible. The WT takes advantage of people's time, effort, and money.

  No one in the world takes the JW and WT seriously. They are so small, just frankly annoying, and soooo wrong - that Christians just ignore them.