Posts by WireRider

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Why does the Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses use the Bible?

by WireRider in

the watchtower, post russell, and the jehovah's witnesses hate the jews and the catholics.

they are not allowed to even set foot in the churches of the bible.

they endlessly rail against how wrong they are - but they are all based on their book??.

WireRider

That you for the dialog. Well said. I need to think about the implications.

Because its very difficult to gain credibility with a brand new holy book and anyone who claims to be directly inspired by God or to have special knowledge is quickly challenged to prove it, which as yet nobody can. So its easier to use an existing book to base your theology on and to claim to be the only one correctly interpreting it.

I think we all need time to ponder that. The WT/JW is only a 100 yrs old and tried to force a religion.

In the case of the Watchtower, Rutherford just evolved Russell's belief that Christianity had essentially been corrupted (this idea originated during the protestant reformation) and it was the Bible Student's task to distill the "truth" from the lies. Therefore sooner or later (later in this particular case) a Jehovah's Witness version of the Bible had to logically follow.

I do respectively disagree. In the mid 1900's Christianity from some small place in the middle east didn't have time to be corrupted. Russell followed Miller to Arianism and Adventistism and end-of-the-world religions.

Russell had a successor picked out. It wasn't Rutherford. Rutherford hijacked the group and commercialized it. He stole over 150 million to build his place in CA. He was never a pastor - or cared.

to follow:

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Someone tell me why the Watchtower is tax exempt?

by WireRider in

i live in a town.

there is a watchtower kingdom hall.

they do not pay any local sales tax or property tax.

WireRider

I live in a town. There is a Watchtower Kingdom Hall. They do not pay any local sales tax or property tax. They have local coverage of police and fire and community services for free --- at the unwanted expense of EVERYONE else.

The Watchtower is a plague and blight on all our communities. They suck up services. Tax free. AND THEY HAVE NO PLACE OR REASON to be here. They offer NO benefit to the community at all.

The WT/JW are like locusts. Tax free - robing locals.

We hate them. Stop knocking at our doors unwanted. Not unwanted - despised. Get out.

Get off my door step and stop sucking up my taxes - I never agreed to pay local taxes to cover you!

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Why does the Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses use the Bible?

by WireRider in

the watchtower, post russell, and the jehovah's witnesses hate the jews and the catholics.

they are not allowed to even set foot in the churches of the bible.

they endlessly rail against how wrong they are - but they are all based on their book??.

WireRider

Use use the Old Testament - hate Jews for writing it wrong and misunderstanding their own writings. Use use the New Testament and hate hate the Catholics that wrote it for understanding it wrong.

Why do the WT/JW hate the Jews and Catholics so very much for writing the book they follow so seriously?

The WT/JW are not allowed to set foot into the writers of the book they follow.

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Why does the Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses use the Bible?

by WireRider in

the watchtower, post russell, and the jehovah's witnesses hate the jews and the catholics.

they are not allowed to even set foot in the churches of the bible.

they endlessly rail against how wrong they are - but they are all based on their book??.

WireRider

The Watchtower, post Russell, and the Jehovah's Witnesses hate the Jews and the Catholics. They are not allowed to even set foot in the Churches of the Bible. They endlessly rail against how wrong they are - but they are all based on their book??

The Watchtower has no Bible - period.

JW are not allowed to walk in my door. WTF?

Then why use (pervert) their book?

Russell praised Arius - exiled from the Church, and Rutherford was a teen age girl groupie of Hitler - many still suffer from the adoption of the Nazi youth program brainwashing by Rutherford.

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My first post

by thewalker in

jw
friends

hi, i just joined the board and wanted to present myself.. i'm active, in fact very active in congregation activities serving "where the need is great" in a foreign language congregation somewhere in western europe.

as a young brother, i'm seen as an example as i'm doing all a good witness should do.. i had doubts years ago but i decided just to ignore them and move to another congregation to preach more.

that worked for some years but i'm now at the exact same point.

WireRider

Stop being a tool of a for-profit cult. Spreading false religion to people is just wrong. You will burn like all false prophets.

The WT/JW ARE the false prophets the Bible warns about. Stop being a false prophet and conning people out of Christianity.

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The Horror of mom needing blood and almost dying...you dont want this!!!

by Witness 007 in

my mom was unwell for awhile bruises on her body....doc tells us she has a form of lukiemia.

of course "no blood" she is anointed and stubborn as hell.

her platelets (blood fraction 2% of blood volume) are 4 should be 150!!!

WireRider

I HATE THE WATCHTOWER SO MUCH FOR FALSE BULLSHIT OPINIONS THEY FORCE ON OTHERS.

I think there are issues with "consuming" blood. But that makes some sense - don't drink (ingest) blood. Although it is probably a high protein snack of very vital nutrient we already need. Transfusion are NOT DRINKING BLOOD. I am alive today for God's help/ability/knowledge to replace blood I needed.

Did ANYONE ever stop to think that God gave us the ability to save lives with blood transfusions? The medical and the science and the knowledge and the ability to save the lives of each other. GOD GAVE US BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS AND LIFE SAVING SKILLS. Why the hell to people refuse God's gift?

Don't run around drinking the blood of goats. Be kosher. But any one who ever eats meat - ingests blood. Every single WT/JW should be vegan or they are breaking the law. No more meat ever. Die without God's gifts of saving lives.

Stupidest thing I ever heard that people refuse life saving measures.

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What date was set for our letters to be sent to KH in our communities.

by James Mixon in

who recall the topic.

we discuss ways to cause an uproar in the kh, sending letters we want.

out.....

WireRider

How about every Wednesday?

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What date was set for our letters to be sent to KH in our communities.

by James Mixon in

who recall the topic.

we discuss ways to cause an uproar in the kh, sending letters we want.

out.....

WireRider

Please

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"Obey" or "Be persuaded" at Hebrews 13.17

by Wonderment in

various posters have apparently concluded that the wt society is wrong by quoting hebrews 13.17 as a reason for christians to submit to, and be "obedient" to those taking the lead among them.

they have pointed out that the greek word for obedience is "hypakouo" or some other, not "pei'tho" which is the one that appears in the beginning of verse 17 at hebrews ch.

their motive for their objections may be one of rancor brought about by the extreme authoritative measures the society have imposed on the brotherhood.

WireRider

I don't get it.

The people/former-people can only see 2 or 3 times the WT/JW guaranteed the end of the world when you can prove on paper it was more then a dozen times -- but they cannot see those other worlds. How does that work?

Yet every day they insist on on getting up in the morning, get dressed, and uninvited go pounding pounding door-to-door to claims their FALSE PROPHETS know the truth.

Rutherford stole $150 million from people during the depression era - promised the end of the world many times - why the hell would I sign up for your cult?

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"Obey" or "Be persuaded" at Hebrews 13.17

by Wonderment in

various posters have apparently concluded that the wt society is wrong by quoting hebrews 13.17 as a reason for christians to submit to, and be "obedient" to those taking the lead among them.

they have pointed out that the greek word for obedience is "hypakouo" or some other, not "pei'tho" which is the one that appears in the beginning of verse 17 at hebrews ch.

their motive for their objections may be one of rancor brought about by the extreme authoritative measures the society have imposed on the brotherhood.

WireRider

Various posters have apparently concluded that the WT Society is wrong by quoting Hebrews 13.17 as a reason for Christians to submit to, and be "obedient" to those taking the lead among them.

The WT are not Christians. People are not subservient to humans.

Show me where the WT has any connection to God or has any control. "to those taking the lead among them" is a very dangerous thing. George Jones took the lead. Charles Manson took the lead. My best proof is on the Bible's dire warnings of beware of false profits. The WT has proven of a dozen times to claim the end of the world, as fund raisers. I would not trust them.