WireRider

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  I have been informed that if u are df and you appeal the decision and you loose appeal

  by poopie in

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  the elders will keep you out longer as payback for you appealing their decision how dare you peon appeal the secret weapons design you stupid publisher.

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  WireRider

  DF'd. People are so freaking crazy.

  Jesus does not "DF" people. God does not "DF" people. Some really stupid group of very very narcissistic "false prophets" that God PROMISES WILL DIE keep running around and banging on my door.
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  I have been informed that if u are df and you appeal the decision and you loose appeal

  by poopie in

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  the elders will keep you out longer as payback for you appealing their decision how dare you peon appeal the secret weapons design you stupid publisher.

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  Huh. Hmm. That's weird. Why are human's in judgement of anything?

  I have grown up in an Christian Church. I don't recall any time Jesus Christ said GET THE HELL OUT AND DON;T COME BACK. An appeal to some human's? Seriously?

  Put me in a room with a couple of humans that felt like they had judgement over me? ... It probably would not end well.

  Why do you people allow them to do that to you? NONE of them are ordained. They are not Christians. What a crock of sh##t. Why do you LET THEM do those things to you????

  DF'd - appeal - what? What the F are they?
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  Scripture fatigue

  by New day in

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  i wondered why i felt so fatigued over many years from hearing the same things again and again at the meetings.

  even the scriptures become too familiar.

  a few days ago i quickly read through all the gospels and realised i knew all the verses in detail.

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  WireRider

  People should not blame/resent God for what the Watchtower has always done to co-opted the idea.

  The Watchtower uses religion very specifically to rob/steal/trick/con people.

  The strange thing is that is started so long ago with devious intentions, that those currently in charge now actually naively believe what they were taught.... They patients are now running the asylum and they seem to really believe it. It is now only brainwashing run amok.

  It's 2015. They are still quoting very specifically versus from 0 - BC/AD. Times have changed. Keeping everyone shackled by archaic writings is just wrong.
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  Scripture fatigue

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wondered why i felt so fatigued over many years from hearing the same things again and again at the meetings.

  even the scriptures become too familiar.

  a few days ago i quickly read through all the gospels and realised i knew all the verses in detail.

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  WireRider

  The WT/JW very intentionally forces everyone away from the Trinity - which was the very intent of the New Testament. It was the only purpose that they picked and choose those particular writings to create the New Testament and settle the argument once and for all. Russell was so wrong.
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  Scripture fatigue

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wondered why i felt so fatigued over many years from hearing the same things again and again at the meetings.

  even the scriptures become too familiar.

  a few days ago i quickly read through all the gospels and realised i knew all the verses in detail.

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  WireRider

  The WT/JW cherry picks versus of the Bible only. If you really pick out 30% of the Bible you can really claim it means what ever you want it to mean. Repetition is certainly KEY in pounding their belief home to control people, but it is a tool also to control people from reading the verses they DON'T want you reading. It's a foundation of brainwashing.

  You could probably pick out certain versus for a brochure that claim only fish on Wednesdays, only in a tent outside, and women must serve it to men. An some stupid idea that no one gets to have birthdays.
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  Seems like the perfect holiday for j-dubs

  by rebel8 in

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  if this article is correct, (american) thanksgiving's origins have several things j-dubs love.

  the xian god.

  genocide of nonbelievers that included men, women and children alike.

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  WireRider

  My daughter is back for Thanksgiving from her first year away at college. She is so pumped to see immediate and extended family. Don't %@^#^#% it up with some ancient crap from the past - that is not what we are celebrating. That goes for the WT too!

  I go huge on her birthday too.
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  Seems like the perfect holiday for j-dubs

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if this article is correct, (american) thanksgiving's origins have several things j-dubs love.

  the xian god.

  genocide of nonbelievers that included men, women and children alike.

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  WireRider

  I think you can tie every single day of the year to some pagan holiday or some such thing. I think in 2015 people need to get over the past. No one has fun and celebrates holidays based on evil things. Thanksgiving is a few days off of work, families get together, celebrate the harvest season and the end of a long work year in the fields. Modern adults and children are celebrating the harvest and a coming together of the pilgrims and Indians - that's all they know, that's all their intentions are, that is all they are celebrating, they are celebrating family time. Let them have it.

  They are not celebrating any evil thing. Let it go.

  I'm sure Feb 5 happens to fall on some dooms day reference to some pagan ritual 2000 years ago. So what? It's Billies birthday. So what? Stop penalizing him. Celebrating Billie's birthday is not worshiping the devil or some pagan rite because of the date.

  It's Thanksgiving in the 20th century. Don't mess with it.

  I don't believe the WT blacks out holidays because of stupid superstitions - they black out holidays to control the herd in control and keep them away from real people.
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  Warwick Polution

  by scotoma in

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  has there been any discussion about why jehovah would guide his people to a polluted property to build their world headquarters?

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  Did anyone tell the volunteers they were working in a toxic waste dump, from a metal fabrication and research/development factory? Metal production research programs? How toxic could that be?

  I also read that the WT had a printing facility in the area - Wallkill/Warwick? But in the area. There is thread on here where the WT printing facility itself was illegally burying many many barrels of illegal toxic waste byproducts. Workers found it while digging new foundations for buildings. The volunteer/worker was certified in waste removal and went whistle-blower on the cover-up of ground-soaking WT toxic waste. The needed special permits to get the dug up barrels off the property.

  Did anyone tell the volunteers? Working in toxic waste dumps?
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  Warwick Polution

  by scotoma in

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  has there been any discussion about why jehovah would guide his people to a polluted property to build their world headquarters?

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  WireRider

  Toxic waste site right? Hazardous chemicals that are dangerous enough to cost millions in clean up. Don't they have a lot of volunteers working in very hazardous conditions? Is that right? How many volunteers will sue the WT when they knowingly sent them to work there and they start coming down with illnesses?
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  Dont Give Them More Power Than They Deserve

  by Tech49 in

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  a new montra that was recently adopted by the wife and i is this:.

  dont give them more power than they deserve.. here's why i say that, and i point this to those of you still in the congregation, still trying to decide what you want to do.. recently, our family had a little family reunion gathering of sorts, and we were in the company of some extended family that were either df or da, to varying degrees.

  we made it very clear, to any and all in attendance, that we wanted to be respectful and kind, despite any previous perceptions about our "status".... and that our feelings on a lot of things had "softened", and "changed" over the last 2 years.. i am being purposefully slightly vague, but i think you get the point.

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  WireRider

  The org was started by Russell, who never passed the 7th grade, didn't want any body to go passed the 7th grade, and was NEVER a Minister - never Ordained by any Church - but insisted on being called Minister Russell. His wife divorced him and stated in Court (local newspapers available online) for locking himself in the bedroom of their orphaned 14yr old house girl overnights. (have your doubts - but she could not testify at the divorce trial because she was on a slow boat to Australia with a pocket full of cash) (and all these treads of WT/JW child sexual abuse - hmmm - who do you think started it? and condoned it? It started at the TOP.)

  Rutherford was never ever a "Judge" but high-jacked the Watchtower, stole over 150 million (modern equivalent) from humans to build a mansion and travel the world, wrote fan letters sucking up to Hitler, adopted brainwashing techniques from the Hitler Youth Programs (notably to turn in relatives) - and still insisted everyone call him "Judge".
  

  What could possibly go wrong with humans claiming to run the lives of other humans?