WireRider

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  Someone please tell me there is a JW Survivor help line

  by WireRider in

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  2. experiences

  who can jw survivors call for help?

  experienced survivors?

  anyone?

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  WireRider

  Thank you all.

  you don't live in fear of being "exposed"

  That bothers me greatly. For anyone. That people should have to live in such a fear in a free country. In fear of humans and a human organization that holds emotional hostages.
  
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  Mass Mailer to Congregations & Branches - Those who can't disassociate

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15.

  the topic above got me thinking.

  everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.

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  WireRider

  All good points. And good ideas.

  The WT uses overwhelming propaganda. I don't think it's wrong to interject a better message into the system to disrupt the cycle. One anonymous person is annoying. A million causes changes. As I have said the goal is not to annihilate the WT but fix it - enough so that people can feel free and liberated and at least no more CONTROL.

  It has to start somewhere. Pair up - mail bomb each others areas. Even the staunchest have to given in to overwhelming opinion. But best to target message to the basic people - like they do.
  

  The helpline is a good idea. You can say dial *67 555-555-5555 to block caller ID and remain anonymous.

  When exactly did the WT loose religion and become a real estate company with captive/trapped labor to build properties for them?
  
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  Area Man Forced Into Jehovah's Witness Protection Program

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huvagg49bpm.

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  WireRider

  That is hysterical
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  Someone please tell me there is a JW Survivor help line

  by WireRider in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  who can jw survivors call for help?

  experienced survivors?

  anyone?

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  WireRider

  Who can JW Survivors call for help? experienced survivors? anyone?
  
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  Dunedain

  
  

  Bless
  
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  WireRider

  Thanks

  Saintbertholdt

  My aim is not to destroy the Watchtower but to allow freedom. “Part of the beauty of this world is that there are so many diverse opinions” – YES. The Watchtower does not allow that. They are prohibited from either looking at apostate sites or claim they are liars.

  “so when one leaves one can research the Watchtower organization from a billion different angles” – absolutely – once they are free – free to exist – free to live – free to make their own choices – and most importantly feel free not to get “caught”.

  I think we are one the same relative page. I don’t advocate necessarily a successor, but I do think it takes a community effort to gather enough resources to some significance as to challenge the Watchtower for the people that want a way out. It is heart tearing to hear all the “I want out” – but they have my family.

  “This website has been around for 16 years”. “Help I can’t get out – they have my family”. 16 years?

  “There have been tens of thousands of members over the past decade and a half”. My point.

  This is NOT as it should be, for anyone. Why do people have to languish for years waiting to be free to believe what they want? Why do so many hate going to church because they have to. “As it should be?” No.
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  WireRider

  The Watchtower and the Jehovah Witness's are a cult.

  They have taken a basis of religion, adopted an orthodox Catholic Bible they hate (long story) and used it to control and manipulate people and destroy families that stray outside their lines.

  Am I close?

  My thought in this discussion is with the torment caused by one group for their human goals. Survivor is a terrible term. A person is better. But in the midst we have to realize that there are, right now, people and child who are currently going through the same issues.

  I am not a JW survivor. I'll be honest.

  I have met people that have gone through it, and people that are going through it right now. It is not anarchy.

  I hope that some day you can share your experience with people a few steps behind you and help them with next steps.

  i think we do best, with a supportive group, and individual attention to specific issues.

  I hope you share your experiences with others needing help and understanding
  
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  azor:

  Maybe put out enough water and the horse may decide by itself to drink when it's thirsty enough. The point being, in this case, there may need to be an alternative.

  And yes. A lot of people I have talked to have many great ideas. Subliminal in good. What if a group got together to work on it? A million member alternative to JW. Enough water to make a difference?
  
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  xjwsrock: a supporter - yes

  I like the idea of a mass exodus - almost Biblical in nature. That's not really what I had in mind. Damage isn't really it - freedom. Freedom for people and more important of an anchor abuse - freedom for families.
  

  I was thinking more of a movement. A little time to gather enough momentum to make a real difference. Bring everyone together. There are so many out there that can unify. Takes time. Needs a leader.
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  WireRider

  She's not allowed to. But thanks.