Posts by WireRider

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Why the Governing Body caught a frightful fright

by Saintbertholdt in

it has been extensively reported on the forum that there has been a marked increase in effort over the past two years by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses to encourage an increase in monetary donations.

this has also been accompanied by the stripping of financial capital from the local congregations.

as has also been reported on this forum, this has in all probability been done to facilitate the financing of the vast new hq building project as well as the financing of the shift from a publishing company to becoming an internet based charismatic multimedia company which produces lame pixar/disney animation knock offs while simultaneously parading the governing body's ever expanding waistlines, blingy accoutrements and stupid grins.. meanwhile the financials of the organization remains as murky as ever.

WireRider

What in the world makes anyone believe the Watchtower reports real numbers about anything? The propaganda department is well staffed with (free) business, marketing, and accountant people.

The "numbers" all have to look good to maintain any kind of legitimacy. I will be anyone that their total attendance count, number of "time cards", income, and total value isn't anywhere close to the truth. It is a lie to the "congregations" to keep it going, and why would they ever tell a government they don't have any respect for the truth?

I doesn't it really matters what forms people find. They know you will find them. They plant information. I would. I would use you.

They count on the rebellion to spread these lies.

Yes - they have volunteers to read all this stuff and report back to the GB on the social media trends of their fake media - and yes that means their fraudulent filings. Who would ever go after them? The IRS? They are all fake filings for propaganda of sustainability and growth. It's fake.

There is no link. There is no information that they do not want you to see. This is a multi-million dollar corporation that strictly controls WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

They could truly be penniless for all anyone knows. All a charade to keep people believing they are real and keep giving money. How else would you end the WATCHTOWER? Faking it until the very end to get money?

What if they did end? How would it go? Millions in they back or just stop answering the phones?

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Why the Governing Body caught a frightful fright

by Saintbertholdt in

it has been extensively reported on the forum that there has been a marked increase in effort over the past two years by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses to encourage an increase in monetary donations.

this has also been accompanied by the stripping of financial capital from the local congregations.

as has also been reported on this forum, this has in all probability been done to facilitate the financing of the vast new hq building project as well as the financing of the shift from a publishing company to becoming an internet based charismatic multimedia company which produces lame pixar/disney animation knock offs while simultaneously parading the governing body's ever expanding waistlines, blingy accoutrements and stupid grins.. meanwhile the financials of the organization remains as murky as ever.

WireRider

What if? What if the GB fakes the money? A tax exempt org. What's the downside?

If for purely manipulative reasons they fake their financial filings and total value just as much as they fake their cult head count. Propaganda control. The Watchtower does not file anything accidentally.

It's how/why they control.

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Your Opinion Pleeease

by thankyou in

jw girl non-jw guy.

tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

WireRider

DJS,

You remarkably have the worst insecurity complex I have seen in a long time. Your'e narcissism is dwarfed only by your overwhelming feelings of inadequacy and insecurity.

I hate to break it to you - you don't bother me. You are just an asshole.

I check in once or twice a week. I take a minute once in a while to comment. Your insistence on expanding definitions of physiology, that you don't understand, clearly shows your compulsion here. Good luck with that.

I'm guessing you are about 14 based on your sentence structure, miss-spellings, punctuation, and grammatical errors.

(WTF??? I mean really. What. Tha. Fuck:

And greedy. Save some warm girl bodies for the rest of us thank you thankyou

I'm going with a 13 yr old with a cell phone from his parents.

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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

WireRider

First and fore most A) the Bible students left - when Rutherford took over forcefully (he was never Russell's chosen heir) half of the "Bible Student's" just left (I wish that could happen again). It was a re-branding of the name to try and save face. B) It has always been a tax dodge - the Watchtower books profits and plays with the non-profit, tax exempt, laws in many countries under the name of a "religious" filing of JW.

There is the "Jehovah" name that no one believes is even real. Every on knows "Jehovah" was an admitted WRONG translation of YAHWEH. Seriously? How do you get from YAHWEH to "Jehovah", So who are they praying to? How do they know. I think the fictitious name was on purpose. What "God" are they actually praying to? The derivation (in translation) of JEHOVAH is JEH, or god reference, and "HOVAH" refers to liar, and "one that cannot be trusted." Who/what exactly are they praying to?

The WT has only been around about a 100 years. Most of which has been propaganda, branding, and avoidance of tax laws. They need the JW as a tax shelter.

Although in less than 100 years they have really f$%&#@ck up the brand name. NO ONE wants them showing up at their door - they are a laughing stock in all forms of media/comedy. I guess there are those that believe when are laughing with them, they think they have "made it" - they are not laughing with you - they are laughing at you.

But it would make typical sense for them to re-brand and get 100 years of laughter (at them) off their back for a while - and certainly not to be associated/connected to that JW pedophile cult group.

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Your Opinion Pleeease

by thankyou in

jw girl non-jw guy.

tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

WireRider

I agree. The irony is that in a non JW doing extensive research to make a relationship work, no matter how hard, is usually the end when you find out.

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Your Opinion Pleeease

by thankyou in

jw girl non-jw guy.

tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

WireRider

DJS -

I stand by my statement. You're an asshole.

Someone came here looking for sollice, support, and advice. You were completely out of line.

If you can find something I said that was wrong please point it out.

I did. Do we need crayons here?

I gave thank you several opportunities to recant/explain. As a matter of fact, when you find something I've said that is wrong in any OP, please let me know and I will fix it.

No. It was my first comment to you. Where does " several opportunities" come from? Do I need to explain a conversation to you? It is where one person speaks and the other takes his turn, and then potentially again.

I don't know "thank you" personally. But it doesn't take much to spot a narcissistic asshole.

You asked for opinions, and you received exactly what you asked for and exactly what you deserved based on the statement - your statement - I copied. Childishly avoiding responding to negative opinions and seeking refuge behind the skirts of those who liked you Sally suggests you are emotionally immature and manipulative.
I made an honest and very accurate assessment of your statement, devoid of any venom. That is not the problem; that is the solution to childish, immature and manipulative people. Suggesting otherwise, or that those who disagree with you aren't normal and aren't optimists is manipulation of the highest level. Hiding behind the skirts of girls kinda sorta proves my point.
Mr. Koresh, you aren't smart enough to play this game with me. Go play with, and manipulate, girls. If you want to play with grown up adult males, I'm right here waiting on you Richard.

I'm one of the few people on this site that can actually help people,

Explain to everyone how you are one of the few tiny people that can help people you berate and belittle.

There are some great insecurities there ...

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2016 JW Yearbook out now and online

by JWchange in

latest numbers: 1.5% increase from 2014:.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2016-yearbook/2015-grand-totals/ .

interesting sections: .

WireRider

The Watchtower is nothing but a financial black whole. The only thing they promote (brag about) is investments to get more money. Where does all your money REALLY go? Where did the OTHER $236 million go?

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2016 JW Yearbook out now and online

by JWchange in

latest numbers: 1.5% increase from 2014:.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2016-yearbook/2015-grand-totals/ .

interesting sections: .

WireRider

Thank you so much RULES & REGULATIONS for putting the words into numbers. I wish there was some facts and figures for how much money the Watchtower leaches off of local communities for their FREE presence in our towns for being tax exempt and costing everyone else to pay for their welfare.

And you know what - if they are forcing armies of people - who don't even want to do it - banging on doors of people that hate them banging doors as uninvited guests - making them pay for their blight on society ----- the Watchtower should kneel and beg forgiveness from Christians that they have been pissing off for years. GET OFF MY DOORSTEP - I AM SICK OF PAYING YOUR TAXES. You give nothing.

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The WT knew in 1922 that 1914 was wrong !

by Phizzy in

in the may 1922 edition of the wt, page 133, rutherford is writing defending the work of russell and the 1914 doctrine, he quotes what some have said to prove russell was wrong :.

" "zedekiah was taken captive and jerusalem fell in the year 587 b. c.; thus showing that the full end of the gentile times and the fall of gentile governments is indicated to take place in 1934".. he goes on, in his own inimitable style, to disprove the above, but note, he is aware of the 587bce date for jerusalem's destruction.. if you are interested, you can read the whole mag here*, just click on pdf to read.. * https://ia700401.us.archive.org/19/items/1922watchtowerarticlesonchronology/1922_watchtower_articles_on_chronology.pdf.

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WireRider

They knew back in 1922 that 1914. And they kept on preaching about it.

Thanks again Beth -

Wouldn't it be more helpful if they knew about 1914 in 1900? Russell based the end of the whole world on 1914 based on measurements of pyramids (money donations to the Watchtower). Oops World didn't end. Russell claimed a "false" measurement was to blaim - World will certainly end in 1915. God got fed up with the false prophet and just offed him him 2016. Well, he had to let 2015 run out just to make Russell look like more of an ass.

Why? Please tell my why? People listen to this group that has promised the absolute end of the world a dozen times and it never happens? They very bible they preach from says false prophets must die.

Are these just propaganda for magazine subscription drives?

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The positive achievements of Science and Religion in 2015. How do they compare?

by nicolaou in

science.. landed a probe on a comet, found liquid water on mars and successfully completed a ten year mission to pluto.. developed the first successful vaccine against ebola, discovered another human species in homo naledi, developed cancer killing molecules and high intensity ultrasound therapies which avoid surgery and leave healthy cells alone.

successfully mapped the human epigenome and developed the gene editing tool crispr, it's potential for medical and agricultural advance is staggering!.

found a way to produce graphene for a 1000th of the previous cost, developed cheap and sustainable methods to supply clean drinking water where water borne infections have been killing thousands, scaled up production of clean, renewable energy.. there's loads more, please feel free to add to the list.. .

WireRider

Yes, they follow orders. Who knows what really is in their heart.

Real Christians don't have "orders" - we don't even have @&($$$ BS time cards. We are not enslaved by a for-profit company. At best we have a collective effort - or we go elsewhere - and no one threatens to hurt us or cut us of from our families. You know what's in their heir heart - because they are there. They can leave if they are not "in".

Real Christians don't threaten or interrogate people with "groups of elders". You either are either there or you aren't - your personal choice. You can be just involved or uninvolved as you choose - you are always welcome.

Has no one every got the irony that a "for prophet$$ publishing company" chooses to anoint people with the special title of "publishers"? That is not a biblical term at all. What do they write and "publish"? Ever? They are not allowed to publish - everything is "published" for them and propagandized forcibly spoon fed. Even answers to questions are written for them.

Why is it that they cannot not even bring themselves to set foot in a God's "CHURCH". They are not even allowed to call their own buildings a "Church". They have to call them falsely "Kingdom Halls". Is that a Satan thing? Who tricks people into believing that they will inherit the world? For their help in conning people not to go to a God's church? The Watchtower is very ANTI EVERY CHURCH.