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142CO Disfellowshipped in UK
by konceptual99 inso, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.
he has just finished serving the north west london area.
i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.
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CO Disfellowshipped in UK
by konceptual99 inso, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.
he has just finished serving the north west london area.
i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.
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iarts
Mickey mouse, you have a PM.
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CO Disfellowshipped in UK
by konceptual99 inso, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.
he has just finished serving the north west london area.
i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.
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iarts
A few weeks back I was told about a UK CO who was recently disfellowshipped. He was well known to some witnesses I know - they were really shocked. I'm guessing he was a former CO of theirs. I didn't recognize his name though, so I can't remember it now. Sorry.
I was told he left his wife and moved to another country with another woman. -
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Hello, I Am New Here
by arrakis1 inwas a jw for 40 years.
stopped attending 2010...resigned officially in 2011. still a little shell shocked but beginning to feel much better now.
awesome revelation....people in the world are not all that bad.
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iarts
Hello, and welcome!
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It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
by raymond frantz ini just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.
although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .
the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.
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iarts
We had an announcement about a letter being received concerning contributions/loans/donations ... something like that. The letter wasn't read out. We were just told it was on the notice board. I never bothered to read it.
Sorry I can't be more specific, but when I hear any mention of contributions, my eyes glaze over and I switch off (even more than usual). I can confirm that we got a letter though...
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Nugget and I have been married 24 years today and our son is 10!
by cantleave inso glad we are out the cult together it makes occassions like this so much more special..
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iarts
Congrats to you both.
(P.S. Nugget, you have a PM)
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New DVD "Become Jehovah's Friend"
by treadnh2o inhey peeps,.
it's been a long while since i've posted (i am completely out - wife and kids still in) but thought you might this interesting.. they came home from the district convention yesterday with the new dvd intended for kids.
they popped it in right away and this is what happens:.
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iarts
On the basis that he was called a wizard (by Owen Lars) and was obviously a warrior, my childhood Obi-Wan Kenobi toy must have made Jehovah sad.
Too bad....
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The Predictions Thread
by cedars ini thought it might be interesting and fun to have a "predictions thread", where we set out our predictions for events to unfold concerning the watch tower society (or jehovah's witnesses in general) over the coming years/decades.. it strikes me that so much has happened in the last ten years, most of which has defied expectations.
here's just a few of the developments that i can think of:.
the abolishment of group book studies in favor of a "family worship evening"the creation of a "study edition" watchtowerthe halving of monthly magazine printing commitmentsthe unprecedented closure/merging of branches (16% reduction in branches last year)the menlo park scandal, a body of elders removed for resisting a refurb of their kingdom hallthe lawsuits in victoria, australia - the society taken to court concerning child protection lawscourtroom admissions about the faithful & discreet slave and similarities with the catholic churchincreased hate speech against "mentally diseased" apostatesastonishing lapses of judgment, such as the "selma and steve" study articlethe ditching of gilead as a school for missionariesambitious construction plans for a new world hq (with or without jehovah's blessing!
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iarts
Direction to clear out Kingdom Hall Libraries -" They take up valuable space that's needed for more congregation chairs, and everything we need is on the CD-ROM."
The true reason of course being that the old publications expose the WT, and are history that can't be re-written (whereas the latest CD-ROM edition can re-write history).
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The best and worst Travelling Overseers in the UK
by usualusername inmy fave was roy renouf - district overseer.
always had time for me and seemed to keep thigs real.. heard that on a zone vist he told the governing body the branch was told old and grumpy or something like that!.
worst was michael purbrick.
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iarts
Charlie Scurlock was a miserable old bugger, as was his wife. It's hard to imagine anyone less Christ-like. John Hobden was only marginally better.
Bill Harris was alright, but a bit mad.
David Lane seemed like a genuinely nice guy.
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What the Watchtower needs to do to survive.
by jwfacts indrop its teaching on paradise earth.. the primary issue facing the watchtower results from it's teaching that members will never die, but live forever on this earth in paradise.
this teaching is cause of most of the doctrinal failures, and will be its eventual demise.. the promise of never dying is one of the foremost motivations for people that join the religion, and the message of living forever in paradise is compelling.
however, it is also the watchtower's achilles heel, as it forces false predictions of the nearness of the end.
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iarts
The modern world is increasingly tolerant of others lifestyles and beliefs.
In order to survive, the WTS needs to be more liberal. Instead it is increasingly hard-line. It’s pushing more of its members to breaking point, and is likely losing respect it previously may have had in communities.
Belief in God is in decline almost universally, especially amongst younger generations. Atheists are becoming increasingly vocal – religion is now openly attacked (verbally) rather than quietly scoffed at.
I agree with Refriedtruth that 2012 is going to make JW’s and their doomsday message look more foolish.
The response in the ministry is going to be increasingly condescending towards JW’s. Embarrassment, apathy from householders and sheer weariness are going to take even greater toll on publishers. Pushing youngsters to join the pioneer ranks is going to increase resentment towards the organization as they put all their efforts into fruitless activity.
I reckon the best chance the WTS has is to scrap regular pioneering. Allow JW’s to have a relatively ‘normal’ life, earn some money for the contribution box, ease up a bit on the guilt about hours and allow the religion to plod slowly along rather than pressing for more ‘wondrous expansion’. Keep auxiliary pioneering to allow for the odd ‘special effort’ (i.e. memorial season) and for those who feel the need to have their extra hours noticed by the congregation.